On 08/05/21 09.08, dwh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Think about it like this. Right now, I could use an IMAP client to download all of my emails from GMail, store them in mbox files, then use the IMAP client to upload the email to Fastmail or SDF.org or some other email provider. Or better yet, I can install local tools for working with my email. The fact that email providers/tools are largely interchangeable and replacable--despite Google/Yahoo/Microsoft's best efforts--gives maximum power to users.
Well, I use Thunderbird because it supports Gmail accounts out of the box. But I wish I could use Mutt or similar, alas Gmail requires that I need to enable 2FA and s/<google account password>/<specific app password>/ in order to access Gmail via Mutt. I currently steer clear from 2FA, because once upon a time in 2018 I screwed up (locked-out) from my older account, which IMO mission-critical., for I couldn't pass all possible verification methods for that. So I created new account one in about Día de Kartini (Kartini's day). And yes, Google/Yahoo/MS have webmail interface for their mail services (Gmail/YahooMail/Outlook), but for purposes for sending to vger.kernel.org, these above are rubbish because they genereated HTML emails, and vger hate HTML emails. -- An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara