"Drew DeVault" <sir@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Fri Apr 9, 2021 at 9:39 PM EDT, brian m. carlson wrote: >> Since I agree that "ssl/tls" may be a bit confusing, maybe we could call >> that option "wrapped" or "tunneled"? Other names are possible, of >> course. > > I would prefer to name the options after the terms we can expect the > user to find in their mail service provider's documentation, hence > SSL/TLS and STARTTLS. Though I can see the confusion in including the > slash, I'll figure something else out. OK. * My e-mail provider [*] seems to label these two as SSL/TLS (sometimes just TLS) and STARTTLS, but that is aligning how the popular client programs call these two methods, so it may not be a good datapoint. * GMail help page [*] seems to use 'SSL' vs 'STARTTLS' (they seem to support both). * Outlook.live.com/ help page [*] says they want you to use 'STARTTLS' for SMTP, but they use 'SSL/TLS' to describe their IMAP and POP offerings. With the above limited samples, I agree that the choices between 'SSL/TLS' and 'STARTTLS' would appear familiar to our end-users. [Reference] * https://helpspot.pobox.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=118 https://helpspot.pobox.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=125 https://helpspot.pobox.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=399 * https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7126229?hl=en * https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/pop-imap-and-stmp-settings-8361e398-8af4-4e97-b147-6c6c4ac95353