On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 4:40 PM Elijah Newren <newren@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:22 PM Felipe Contreras > <felipe.contreras@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > The glossary defines a fast-forward as: > > > > A fast-forward is a special type of `merge` > > > > So, if you consider "merge" a noun, then a fast-forward is an > > adjective. If you consider it a verb, then it's an adverb. But it's > > not a verb. > > A square is a special type of a rectangle, but that doesn't make > "square" an adjective; both square and rectangle are nouns. Words have multiple definitions. The word "square" is both a noun, and an adjective [1]. It's perfectly fine to say "square corner". Just like it's perfectly fine to say "fast-forward merge", or "quick sort". And that's how many people use it: https://git-scm.com/docs/git-merge#_fast_forward_merge https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/merge_requests/fast_forward_merge.html https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/using-branches/git-merge#:~:text=Fast%20Forward%20Merge Plus there's many instances in the documentation: * non-fast-forward update * fast-forward merges * fast-forward check * "fast-forward-ness" * fast-forward situation * fast-forward push * non-fast-forward pushes * non-fast-forward reference * fast-forward cases * "fast-forward" merge > > If it was a verb, then we should have `git fast-forward`, which may > > not be a terrible idea, but right now a fast-forward is a modifier. > > > > At least that's what I have in my mind, and the glossary seems to agree. > > If you read the release notes and even various messages printed by > git, "fast-forwards", "fast-forwarded", "fast-forwarding", and "to > fast-forward" all appear multiple times. And yes, "fast-forward" also > appears multiple times as a noun in addition to the various uses as a > verb. So, I'd say the glossary just isn't comprehensive because in > this case we have a word that serves as both a noun and a verb. It can be a noun, a verb, an adjective, and an adverb. But the question is not what it can be, but what it actually is. I'm just telling you my rationale: 1. noun: it doesn't make sense because you don't create, pick, show, or push a "fast-forward" 2. verb: there's no idiom to tell git "do fast-forward" 3. adjective: there are merge nouns (commits), but no instances of fast-forward merge commits, like say octopus merge commits 4. adverb: you can tell git "do merge", and "do fast-forward merge" So, in my opinion a fast-forward today can only logically be an adverb. Like a bubble sort is a special type of sort, and theoretically you can say "do a bubble", but it's just weird. My mind is left hanging: a bubble $what? Likewise, when people say "do me a solid", I'm annoyed... A solid $what?! They mean "a solid favor". People do it, so it's part of language, but it doesn't stop it from being weird in my opinion. An adverb typically answers the question "in what way?". Do me a favor... In what way? In a solid way. Do a sort... In what way? In a quick way. Do a move... In what way? In a bold way. Do a merge... In what way? In a fast-forward way. > Going back to the text Junio highlighted, I agree with him that the > phrase looks really awkward, and much prefer his suggestion > (regardless of whether it aligns with the current glossary). Normally I don't show credentials, but in this case I think it might be relevant. I've read multiple linguists, like Noam Chomsky, and Steven Pinker. I follow many others and read their articles. I also read The Pinker's Sense of Style: The Thinking Person's Guide to Writing in the 21st Century [2], which I can't recommend enough for people writing technical documents or any other classic style. I have an arguably successful blog with more than 200 articles and more than 1 million views, which is regularly linked from other blogs, and technical resources. I constantly get thanked both in person, and online for what I write. And at some point I was asked by a publisher to write a book about Git (which I didn't feel prepared for at that time). So, clearly at least some people value the way I write. I'm not trying to be stubborn here, I just honestly put effort into the art of writing, and I do care deeply about language. Of course I might be wrong in this particular instance, but if I am, it's not because of lack of effort. I think fast-forward is mainly an adverb, but even if it isn't the main usage; it's still clearly an usage. Cheers. [1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/square [2] https://www.amazon.com/Sense-Style-Thinking-Persons-Writing/dp/0143127799 -- Felipe Contreras