On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:32 PM Jeff King <peff@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 06:18:40PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > So an obvious thing we could do, if pull.mode is too much of a > > change, is to make "pull --rebase" codepath honor pull.ff as well, > > perhaps? I.e. those who set pull.ff=only are saying that "please > > stop me when I have any local change---I want to be notified if my > > pull on this branch results in anything but a fast-forward from the > > upstream". > > > > And then making an unconfigured pull.ff to default to pull.ff=only > > may give a proper failure whether you merge or rebase. I dunno. > > Yeah, I would be perfectly happy with that (and it's in fact what I > _thought_ was happening before today's discussion). > > I do wonder if anybody has set: > > pull.rebase=true > pull.ff=only > > which would then refuse to rebase at all, and whether they would be > annoyed. I am scratching my head over why one would do that, though. It > is meaningful only if you usually rebase, but when you say "--no-rebase" > you want to make sure you do not create a merge commit. Which seems > weird. I think you are losing track of the goal. The goal is that *eventually*: 1. No warning is issued 2. No configuration is needed 3. The default behavior is sane. The whole point of "pull.rebase=ff-only" (aka. "pull.mode=ff-only") was to make it the *default*. If you make "pull.ff=only" the default, *and* you make "git pull --rebase" respect that, then "git pull --rebase" will fail by default (unless it's a fast-forward). What we really need is something like: 1. git pull # fail by default unless it's a fast-forward 2. git pull --merge # force a merge (unless it's a fast-forward, depending on pull.ff) 3. git pull --rebase # force a rebase (unless it's a fast-forward, depending on pull.ff) Therefore, what we really want is "git pull --rebase" *ignore* "pull.ff=only" (a possible default) or ignore "pull.rebase=ff-only" (also another possible default). It would be possible to do something like: if (!opt_rebase && (!opt_ff || !strcmp(opt_ff, "--ff-only"))) turn_default_behavior = 1; But then how would we distinguish between "git pull", and "git pull --no-rebase" (aka. "git pull --merge" / "pull.rebase=false")? This is just too much unnecessary complication There's no need to entertain a dozen possible heuristics to avoid "pull.mode", none of which avoid breaking existing behavior. Let's just accept we need push.mode, and then we can have everything: default, ff-only, merge, rebase. Cheers. -- Felipe Contreras