>-----Original Message----- From: Jeff King <peff@xxxxxxxx> Sent: 19 September 2020 00:28 [+cc postmaster@vger; it looks like messages to the git-list stopped including a Sender header as of a few days ago] On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 06:53:26PM -0400, Aaron Schrab wrote: > > Not to my knowledge. The smtp-level envelope from on all of the > > messages I've received is git-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Is there some > > other mechanism you might be filtering on? > > Comparing <20200911143321.GA2374950@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> with the > message I'm replying to so that I'd have messages which I would expect > to be similar before the list handling I see that that older message > included the header > > Sender: git-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > But the newer message does not have a Sender: header. Ah, thanks. I even looked for a Sender header, but I stupidly looked at too-recent messages, which of course didn't have one. :) According to my local archive, we stopped getting Sender headers around 1600296026 (that's the timestamp when I received it), which was Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:11:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] t3200: avoid variations of the `master` branch name https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flore.kernel.org%2Fgit%2F20200916211150.GA617237%40coredump.intra.peff.net%2F&data=02%7C01%7Crichard.kerry%40atos.net%7C18fbfb95670c4239606e08d85c2a8213%7C33440fc6b7c7412cbb730e70b0198d5a%7C0%7C0%7C637360684926108678&sdata=kO%2B18zpArKLse%2FI4JaNNvhqNmv%2F8hnftYyZvWTjVECQ%3D&reserved=0 The message I received right before that was: Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 14:25:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] t/test-terminal: avoid non-inclusive language https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flore.kernel.org%2Fgit%2Fxmqqo8m5v2g9.fsf%40gitster.c.googlers.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Crichard.kerry%40atos.net%7C18fbfb95670c4239606e08d85c2a8213%7C33440fc6b7c7412cbb730e70b0198d5a%7C0%7C0%7C637360684926108678&sdata=IL0Td9wrQdVPffYZTycpr1x7jxy5Tq63M2r%2B4h%2Fhb5A%3D&reserved=0 which does have a Sender header (note those are out of order if you believe the client-side Date headers). > I don't know if that was a deliberate change. [RK] Yes, those are the two messages either side of the change as I see it. [RK] I'm using Outlook (it's a work computer) so I probably don't have the level of control that some other mail readers do, and everything gets a load of spam-filter headers added, making the headers harder to read. By adding "To: Git" I seem to have got my filters working again under the new, Sender-less, scheme. That is even working for messages where the Git list is CC-ed rather than Sent to. [RK] Regards, [RK] Richard.