Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> Yes, name-calling and ad hominem attacks again.
>
> No. Emacs _is_ odd. It's not even installed by default on most modern
> Linux distributions.
Hi Linus,
Thus disparaging distributions that do install it. I've not had
to pull any extra packages to get it so far, but I only update
every few years. I've been a happy emacs user for 24 years.
> There's no name-calling there. That's just a solid fact.
The name calling is unseemly on all sides.
>> Please try to remember that Texinfo is a _source_ format, and it
>> produces reasonably hyperrefed and coherent PDF and HTML documents as
>> well as plain ASCII. That it is also able to produce working info
>> files should not bother you.
>
> You do not even know what you are talking about.
>
> AsciiDoc is *also* a source format. But the source format is already
> readable IN ITSELF. Which is the whole point!
Readable, just not writable. It's markup language is a bunch
of special characters that require familiarity to understand.
Sure, you can peruse the text just fine, but why should this
sort of thing:
= My Doc Title =
be preferred to:
@settitle My Doc Title
@chapter, @section, @subsection really make a lot more sense to me
than this sort of cruft (my disparaging term):
Level 0 (top level): ======================
Level 1: ----------------------
Level 2: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Level 3: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Level 4 (bottom level): ++++++++++++++++++++++
It really boils down to preferences and familiarity and should
not degenerate into nasty name calling.
> Headers? Lists? They look like headers and lists in the .txt files. No
> need to think about it as a reader.
So do well-formatted .texi docs. I don't really like anything
other than WYSIWYG, but that doesn't lend it self to reformatting
into man pages et al.
> See? Texinfo is decidedly inferior. But you don't have to take it so
> personally. So is pretty much anything else. Anything XML/SGML is even
> *worse*.
Bah! They all have their drawbacks and preferences are going to weight
drawbacks differently.
So let's all dislike all our choices, eh? Cheers - Bruce
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