Hi Junio, On Mon, 9 Mar 2020, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@xxxxxx> writes: > > > On the other hand, if we make `git-bugreport` a built-in, I cannot see any > > downsides. > > > > For me, therefore, having it as a built-in is a clear win. What am I > > missing? > > The right sense of relative importance between efficiently running > the rest of Git by not bloting the main binary and making sure not > to ship Git that does not run unless "git bugreport" runs (which > makes sure that "bugreport" runs) is what you are missing, I > suspect. By that reasoning, `git bugreport` should not be included in core Git. > Another thing is that you are giving "git bugreport" too much weight > and too little credit to inexperienced users, by assuming that we > will never hear from them when "bugreport" is incapable to run for > them. They will report, with or without "git bugreport", and the > more important thing you seem to be missing is that after the > initial contact it would become an interactive process---there is > no reason to prioritize to ensure that the initial contact has > everything that is needed to diagnose any issue without further > interaction. "With my build, even 'bugreport' dumps core." is > perfectly good place to start. > > Besides, wouldn't the ones on platforms, on which "git bugreport" > may have trouble running, i.e. the ones on minority and exotic > platforms, tend to be self sufficient and capable (both diagnosing > the issue for themselves, and reaching out to us as appropriate) > ones in practice (e.g. I have NonStop folks in mind)? Yes, I can agree that inexperienced users will not give up and keep up the conversation until they see their problems fixed. I can also agree that inexperienced users will report bugs even if it is not made super easy for them to do so. I can agree to that _iff_ I ignore my entire experience maintaining Git for Windows, that is. Sarcasm aside, I think that you underestimate the importance of a good bug reporting tool like `git bugreport`, and I suspect that Emily does not. Ciao, Dscho
