On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 03:08:22PM -0700, Jonathan Tan wrote: > > As a general rule (and why I'm raising this issue in reply to Jonathan's > > patch), I think most or all sites that want OBJECT_INFO_QUICK will want > > SKIP_FETCH_OBJECT as well, and vice versa. The reasoning is generally > > the same: > > > > - it's OK to racily have a false negative (we'll still be correct, but > > possibly a little less optimal) > > > > - it's expected and normal to be missing the object, so spending time > > double-checking the pack store wastes measurable time in real-world > > cases > > I took a look on "next" and it's true for these reasons in most cases > but not all. Thanks for digging into this. > QUICK implies SKIP_FETCH_OBJECT: > > fetch-pack.c: Run with fetch_if_missing=0 (from builtin/fetch.c, > builtin/fetch-pack.c, or through a lazy fetch) so OK. > > builtin/index-pack.c: Run with fetch_if_missing=0, so OK. > > builtin/fetch.c: Run with fetch_if_missing=0, so OK. > > object-store.h, sha1-file.c: Definition and implementation of this > flag. Right, I think going in this direction is pretty simple. Having been marked with QUICK, they hit both of my points from above. And if we want to avoid re-scanning the pack directory because of cost, we _definitely_ want to avoid making an expensive network call. > Everything is OK here. Now, SKIP_FETCH_OBJECT implies QUICK: > > cache-tree.c: I added this recently in f981ec18cf ("cache-tree: do not > lazy-fetch tentative tree", 2019-09-09). No problem with a false > negative, since we know how to reconstruct the tree. OK. > [...] > send-pack.c: This patch (which is already in "next"). If we have a > false negative, we might accidentally send more than we need. But that > is not too bad. Yeah, I think both of these could be QUICK. > promisor-remote.c: This is the slightly tricky one. We use this > information to determine if we got our lazily-fetched object from the > most recent lazy fetch, or if we should continue attempting to fetch the > given object from other promisor remotes; so this information is > important. However, adding QUICK doesn't lose us anything because the > lack of QUICK only helps us when there is another process packing > loose objects: if we got our object, our object will be in a pack > (because of the way the fetch is implemented - in particular, we need > a pack because we need the ".promisor" file). > > So everything is OK except for promisor-remote.c, but even that is OK > for another reason. Yeah, though I wouldn't be sad to see that use a separate flag, since it really is about promisor logic. That implies to me maybe we should be using QUICK more aggressively, and QUICK should auto-imply SKIP_FETCH_OBJECT. > Having said that, perhaps we should consider promisor-remote.c as > low-level code and expect it to know that objects are fetched into a > packfile (as opposed to loose objects), so it can safely use QUICK > (which is documented as checking packed after packed and loose). If no > one disagrees, I can make such a patch after jt/push-avoid-lazy-fetch is > merged to master (as is the plan, according to What's Cooking [1]). I think it's OK to continue leaving out QUICK there if it's not causing problems. It really is a bit different than the other cases. -Peff