On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 08:24:37AM -0700, dwh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
- generate a signify-compatible cryptographic signature of the
verbatim
patch content, perhaps slightly normalized for things like LF vs. CRLF
line endings (see minisign/libsodium for crypto details)
- include both the signature and the public key in the area below '---',
using "Minisig:" and "Minikey:" taglines
I like where you're heading with this suggestion however there are some
issues. It is not clear what bytes the signature was calculated over.
Just the actual patch.
Does it include the "From:" line of the email? How about the
"Signed-off-by"? If there is no binding of the identity of the submitter
to the key pair then you'll have problems with the TOFU policy you
describe further down (explained later).
Ok, I'll argue my point on this later. :)
Also, since we're trying to
move to a Git that supports signatures from multiple different signing
tools and to also support multi-sig sign-offs (e.g. first the author,
then the reviewer, then the merger) these taglines need to be more
compex. At the very least either there needs to be a signature type
tagline or the type of the signature needs to be baked into the key and
signture values (see Secure Scuttlebutt encoding of keys/sigs). Also, if
we want to do chained multisign there should be some framing of what is
signed by each signature. If you're looking for something email like, we
could borrow from mime email attachment encoding to provide framing.
No, we definitely don't want to go down the MIME path (it's routinely
mangled by archivers, so we're much more likely to lose anything that
comes in via MIME attachments).
I would instead have at the very least the signature tool in the value:
Key: minisign|RWT9fcUvSnHPLqqyfLbkGBMEscBWciFFp2iBj2XnZPzW69OVIoYwZ25q
Sig: minisign|RWT9fcUvSnHPLiqWgXEnn98sgk8nl4FteDRkD+9lVK+He//eLOxNZ5QjCROoKJgPGpL4uzoHicN+f6gB54qmtO1cQtfvjS+++QU=
I don't think it's worth it to abstract this out. The main benefits of
minisigs are:
- it's an emerging standard (www.kernel.org should soon offer minisig
signatures on tarball downloads)
- it's short enough to include both the key and the signature into a few
bytes of information -- attempting to do the same with PGP would
balloon the message into kilobytes, even if ECC keys/subkeys are used
But this doesn't solve multi-sig.
It doesn't attempt to, but it can be achieved in a number of clever
ways. For example, the reviewer can sign the minisig signature on the
original patch. E.g.:
Reviewed-by: Alter Ego <mricon@xxxxxxxxxx>
Reviewed-minisig: {minisig signature of RWT9fcUvS...fvjS+++QU=}
Reviewed-minikey: {reviewer pubkey}
This would give you a chain of attestation to the original patch.
For series, this would be more complicated, since Reviewed-by: is
usually posted for the cover letter. Perhaps series cover letters could
include a signature of all individual patch signatures.
That said, this is not something I'm trying to solve -- my goal is to
provide tamper-evident attestation of patches sent to mailing lists, and
I expound on that further down.
TOFU has the problem of not providing cryptographic provenance over
keys
while maintaining provenance on the binding between other identity
attributes and those keys (e.g. author string). In step 3 above there's
no way to know for sure that the submitter is actually who they claim to
be.
Correct, but the same is true for any other key distribution mechanism.
Even with PGP, most people I work with use the TOFU approach -- if a key
is in their keyring, it's considered automatically trusted. My goal is
not really to come up with a tamper-proof solution, but to offer a chain
of cryptographic attestation. Developers can then *choose* to
incorporate tamper-proof features of it into their workflows via tool
support.
Reviewers have no way of knowing that the new key used with the
patch is a legitimate key update. The only option with this design is to
do some out-of-band key verification (i.e. call the submitter and have
them read the key to you over the phone). Out-of-band key validation
hasn't scaled for GPG and it won't scale here either.
Yes, because delegated trust is *hard*. :) We either must rely on
delegated trust via certification authorities -- with all the potential
for abuse there -- or we must make trust decisions on our own, which
doesn't scale well. As far as I can tell, there is no easy solution to
this problem. TOFU just formalizes everyone's current coping mechanism.
Instead of TOFU, a more secure design would require key enrollment, key
rotation, key recovery, and key revocation to all be separate,
cryptographically verified updates to the attribute-to-key database in
the repo.
Right, as long as it's understood that this delegates trust to people
with write access to this repository (and infrastructure admins). This
also has important drawbacks in the case of the Linux kernel, for
example:
- there are thousands of people committing patches to the Linux kernel,
and it's not the same thousands of people with each mainline release,
so keeping key information for all of them in the repository would be
next to impossible
- while torvalds/linux.git is considered "canonical" for Linux, most
developers would be working off of other trees (netdev, arm, etc), so
it would make little sense for them to put their key information into
the mainline repository
Your instinct for storing the attribute+key data in the repo
itself (i.e. in-band) is correct because it makes Git repos
self-verifiable in that cloning is all you need to do to get all of the
data necessary for verifying all of the digital signatures.
Right, this is an important problem to solve, but it's not the one I'm
trying to address. :) I'm specifically interested in cryptographic
attestation of patches sent to mailing lists -- *before* code even makes
it into git. Since there is no way to translate signatures on patches
into git commit signatures, I'm not even attempting to solve that
problem.
Key enrollment should be a separate patch submission that adds the
author and public key to the database file. The patch must be signed
using the key that is being added to the database. This provides the
provenance anchor for the key and also binds the attribute to the key.
I like it, but this won't scale for Linux kernel due to the reasons I've
described above -- thousands of developers who come and go, plus
multiple "canonical" linux.git trees, depending on the component you're
working on.
So back to the original proposal, I like the simplicity but with a few
tweaks, it could be an air tight digital signature scheme for emailed
patches. If air tight provenance is not what you're aiming for, then why
are you even using cryptography?
My primary goal is to remove one of the last bits where we explicitly
trust infrastructure in the Linux Kernel development -- vger.kernel.org
and lore.kernel.org. If either of these systems are compromised, an
attacker would be able to modify patches on the fly in order to insert
malicious code without leaving a trace (e.g. intercept a patch as it is
sent to the actual maintainer, but not when sent to others or to the
archiver). Adding basic cryptographic signatures to the process will
hopefully make this attack vector less likely and will at least offer a
mechanism to perform post-mortem forensic examinations -- without
introducing a central certification authority.
-K
