Hi Peff, On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, Jeff King wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 06:15:46PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > > > > And looking through this patch series, I see a gazillion of *new* > > > process substitutions $(test_something...) and $(basename $whatever). > > > Can't we do something about it? > > > > I wish there was. Unix shell scripting has not evolved much in the past, > > what, 3 decades? So I don't really see a way to "pass variables by > > reference" to shell functions, short of calling `eval` (which buys > > preciously little as it _also_ has to spawn a new process [*1*]). > > Really? An eval can impact the caller's state, so it _can't_ happen in a > sub-process in most cases. > > E.g., if I run this: > > -- >8 -- > #!/bin/sh > > # usage: test_oid_to_path <var> <oid> > # to set the variable <var> in the caller's environment to the path of <oid> > test_oid_to_path() { > path="${2%${2#??}}/${2#??}" > eval "$1=\$path" > } > > test_oid_to_path foo 1234abcd > echo foo: $foo > -- >8 -- > > it all happens in a single process, under both bash and dash. Oops. I think I may have read too much into the name `eval.c` in Dash's source code, I assumed that it was all about the `eval` command. But now that I look at this again, I see: /* * Execute a command inside back quotes. If it's a builtin command, we * want to save its output in a block obtained from malloc. Otherwise * we fork off a subprocess and get the output of the command via a pipe. * Should be called with interrupts off. */ void evalbackcmd(union node *n, struct backcmd *result) { [...] I saw this at https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/dash/dash.git/tree/src/eval.c#n608 So this is actually about `$(...)` (or the old, non-nestable backtick version of it) and not about `eval`. And of course I was also making another incorrect connection to the Perl command `eval` which allows you to catch code that `die()`s (which *must* run in a subprocess). So yeah, I guess `eval` would work here to avoid the `$(...)` constructs. Sorry for the noise, Dscho