On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:18 PM Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Wed, May 01 2019, Duy Nguyen wrote: > > > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 4:14 AM Jeff King <peff@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> It's definitely not implemented universally; each consumer of the config > >> option must decide on it (and it will probably always be that way to > >> some degree, since we don't know the semantics of each options; recall > >> that we may be holding config keys for other non-core programs, too). > >> And we just haven't retro-fitted a lot of those older options because > >> nobody has been bothered by it. > >> > >> That said, I am a proponent of having some kind of clearing mechanism > >> (and I was the one who added credential.helper's mechanism, which has > >> been mentioned in this thread). I think it makes things a lot less > >> difficult if we don't have to change the syntax of the config files to > >> do it. With that constraint, that pretty much leaves: > >> > >> 1. Some sentinel value like the empty string. That one _probably_ > >> works in most cases, but there may be lists which want to represent > >> the empty value. There could be other sentinel values (e.g., > >> "CLEAR") which are simply unlikely to be used as real values. > >> > >> 2. The boolean syntax (i.e., "[foo]bar" with no equals) is almost > >> always bogus for a list. So that can work as a sentinel that is > >> OK syntactically. > > > > Another question about the universal clearing mechanism, how does "git > > config" fit into this? It would be great if the user can actually see > > the same thing a git command sees to troubleshoot. Option 1 leaves the > > interpretation/guessing to the user, "git config" simply gives the raw > > input list before "clear" is processed. Option 2, "git config" > > probably can be taught to optionally clear when it sees the boolean > > syntax. > > We can make it fancier, but we already deal with this, e.g. if you do > "git config -l" we'll show "include{,if}" directives at the same "level" > as other "normal" keys. > > We also provide no way in "git config" to properly interpret a > value. E.g. does a "user.email" showing up twice for me mean I have two > E-Mails at the same time, or does the last one win? Actually --get knows this. Single-valued options can be handled correctly quite easily. It's --get-all (or rather, the future --get-multi because we can't change --get-all's behavior) which can't interpret values because there's no standardized way of doing it. > We both know the > answer, but git-config itself doesn't, and that information lives in > docs/code outside of it. > > Similarly we'd just print a sequence of: > > user.name=foo > user.email=bar > exclude.key=user.* > user.name=baz > > And it would be up to some "smarter" reader of the config data to > realize that the end result is one where we have no "user.email" set, > and "user.name=baz". > > But yeah, optionally having some new --list-normalized or > --list-after-excludes or whatever would be great, and presumably not > hard if we had some central "excludes" mechanism... -- Duy