On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:21:08AM -0400, Jeff King wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 01:13:59PM +0100, SZEDER Gábor wrote: > > > '--verbose-log' is one of the most useful and thus most frequently > > used test options, but due to its length it's a pain to type on the > > command line. > > > > Let's introduce the corresponding short option '-V' to save some > > keystrokes. > > Interesting. I'm not opposed to something like this, but I added > "--verbose-log" specifically for scripted cases, like running an > unattended "prove" that needs to preserve stdout. When running > individual tests, I'd just use "-v" itself, and possibly redirect the > output. > > For my curiosity, can you describe your use case a bit more? Even when I run individual test scripts by hand, I prefer to have a file catching all output of the test, because I don't like it when the test output floods my terminal (especially with '-x'), and because the file is searchable but the terminal isn't. And that's exactly what '--verbose-log' does. Redirecting the '-v' output (i.e. stdout) alone is insufficient, because any error messages within the tests and the '-x' trace go to stderr, so they still end up on the terminal. Therefore I would have to remember to redirect stderr every time as well. I find it's much easier to just always use '--verbose-log'... except for the length of the option, that is, hence this patch.