On Wed, Aug 15 2018, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Sadly, as of less-530, the behavior of "less -F" is broken enough that > I think git needs to potentially think about changing the defaults for > the pager, or people should at least be aware of it. Downloading & trying versions of it locally reveals that it's as of version 520, not 530. The last version before 520 is 487. Presumably it's covered by this item in the changelog: Don't output terminal init sequence if using -F and file fits on one screen[1] > Older versions of less (at least up to less-487 - March 2017) do not > have this bug. There were apparently 520, 527 and 529 releases in > 2017 too, but I couldn't find their sources to verify if they were > already broken - but 530 (February 2018) has the problem. FWIW they're not linked from http://www.greenwoodsoftware.com/less/download.html but you can just URL hack and see releases http://www.greenwoodsoftware.com/less/ and change links like http://www.greenwoodsoftware.com/less/less-530.tar.gz to http://www.greenwoodsoftware.com/less/less-520.tar.gz > The breakage is easy to see without git: > > (echo "hello"; sleep 5; echo "bye bye") | less -F > > which will result in no output at all for five seconds, and then you > get both lines at once as "less" exits. The relevant change in less is this, cutting out the non-relevant parts: diff --git a/less-487/forwback.c b/less-520/forwback.c index 83ae78e..680fa25 100644 --- a/less-487/forwback.c +++ b/less-520/forwback.c [...] @@ -444,3 +444,21 @@ get_back_scroll() return (sc_height - 2); return (10000); /* infinity */ } + +/* + * Return number of displayable lines in the file. + * Stop counting at screen height + 1. + */ + public int +get_line_count() +{ + int nlines; + POSITION pos = ch_zero(); + + for (nlines = 0; nlines <= sc_height; nlines++) + { + pos = forw_line(pos); + if (pos == NULL_POSITION) break; + } + return nlines; +} [...] diff --git a/less-487/main.c b/less-520/main.c index 960d120..6d54851 100644 --- a/less-487/main.c +++ b/less-520/main.c [...] @@ -273,10 +275,19 @@ main(argc, argv) { if (edit_stdin()) /* Edit standard input */ quit(QUIT_ERROR); + if (quit_if_one_screen) + line_count = get_line_count(); } else { if (edit_first()) /* Edit first valid file in cmd line */ quit(QUIT_ERROR); + if (quit_if_one_screen) + { + if (nifile() == 1) + line_count = get_line_count(); + else /* If more than one file, -F can not be used */ + quit_if_one_screen = FALSE; + } } init(); diff --git a/less-487/screen.c b/less-520/screen.c index ad3fca1..2d51bbc 100644 --- a/less-487/screen.c +++ b/less-520/screen.c [...] @@ -1538,7 +1555,9 @@ win32_deinit_term() init() { #if !MSDOS_COMPILER - if (!no_init) + if (quit_if_one_screen && line_count >= sc_height) + quit_if_one_screen = FALSE; + if (!no_init && !quit_if_one_screen) tputs(sc_init, sc_height, putchr); if (!no_keypad) tputs(sc_s_keypad, sc_height, putchr); If you undo that first changed part in main.c your test case prints "hello" to the terminal immediately. > It's not always obvious when using git, because when the terminal > fills up, less also starts outputting, but the default options with -F > are really horrible if you are looking for something uncommon, and > "git log" doesn't respond at all. > > On the kernel tree, this is easy to see with something like > > git log --oneline --grep="The most important one is the mpt3sas fix" > > which takes a bit over 7 seconds before it shows the commit I was looking for. > > In contrast, if you do > > LESS=-RX git log --oneline --grep="The most important one is the mpt3sas fix" > > that (recent) commit is found and shown immediately. It still takes 7s > for git to go through all history and decide "that was it", but at > least you don't need to wait for the intermediate results. > > I've reported it as a bug in less, but I'm not sure what the reaction > will be, the less releases seem to be very random. Via bug-less@xxxxxxx? Is this report available online somewhere? Anyway, CC-ing that address since my digging into this will be useful to them. 1. http://www.greenwoodsoftware.com/less/news.520.html