Hi, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 10 2018, Todd Zullinger wrote: > >>> I added 'use autodie;' without realizing it had external dependencies. >>> According to the documentation >>> http://perldoc.perl.org/autodie.html >>> it's a pragma since perl 5.10.1 >>> Removing 'use autodie;' should be fine: it's not critical. >> >> I should clarify that part of why autodie isn't in my build >> environment is that the Fedora and RHEL7+ perl packages >> split out many modules which are shipped as part of the core >> perl tarball. So while all the platforms I care about have >> perl >= 5.10.1, the Fedora and newer RHEL systems have the >> autodie module in a separate package. >> >> That said, the INSTALL docs still suggest that we only >> require perl >= 5.8, so if autodie is easily removed, that >> would probably be a good plan. > > The intent of those docs was and still is to say "5.8 and the modules it > ships with". > > This was discussed when 2.17.0 was released with my changes to make us > unconditionally use Digest::MD5: > https://public-inbox.org/git/87fu50e0ht.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ > > As noted there that's not some dogmatic "RedHat altered perl so we don't > care about them", but rather that in practice this doesn't impact users > negatively, so I think it's fine. Yeah, that was my understanding. I only included the information on why it was missing from my build environment despite having perl-5.10.1 was due to the Fedora/Red Hat packaging. I agree that any issues which fall out of those packaging differences are on Fedora/Red Hat packagers to fix. (Which should all be relatively trivial, as the perl modules contain a 'Provides: perl($module)'. That allows dnf|yum install 'perl(autodie)' to easily pull in the right package. And the rpm perl dep generator creates a 'Requires: perl(autodie)' when is sees 'use autodie'.) Sorry if I muddied the conversation with that tangential info. :) >> Ævar brought up bumping the minimum supported perl to 5.10.0 >> last December, in <20171223174400.26668-1-avarab@xxxxxxxxx> >> (https://public-inbox.org/git/20171223174400.26668-1-avarab@xxxxxxxxx/). >> The general consensus seemed positive, but I don't think >> it's happened. Even so, that was 5.10.0, not the 5.10.1 >> which added autodie. > > Right, this doesn't apply to autodie. Looking at > https://www.cpan.org/ports/binaries.html there were a lot of releases > that had 5.10.0, not *.1. > > Also git-credential-netrc is in contrib, I don't know if that warrants > treating it differently, I don't use it myself, and don't know how much > it's "not really contrib" in practice (e.g. like the bash completion > which is installed everywhere...)> Indeed, that's a fine question. All the platforms I care about have 5.10.1 or newer, so either way works for me. > But yeah, skimming the code it would be easy to remove the dependency. I wrapped up the changes from Luis which replace my 2/2 "use in-tree Git.pm for tests" and to ensure the tests exit properly on failures. I'll send those out now in the hope that it saves a little effort in moving these minor fixes forward. As far as removing the autodie dep, is there anything more to that than dropping the 'use autodie' line? It looks like doing so leaves us no worse than we were before, but I haven't written any perl in a long time. Thanks, -- Todd ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ocean, n. A body of water occupying about two-thirds of a world made for man -- who has no gills. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
