Re: [PATCH] doc: clarify non-recursion for ignore paths like `foo/`

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One additional note, I think I was was wrong about this:

  "In order to match `foo/` directories while allowing for
possible later exclusions, consider using a trailing wildcard (`foo/*`).
Note that matching directories with a trailing wildcard incurs some
additional performance cost, since it requires recursion into
subdirectories."

`foo/*` will let `!foo/file` work but still seems to prevent `!foo/bar/file`.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 7:53 AM, Dakota Hawkins
<dakota@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> First, apologies since I didn't get the in-reply-to correct in my
> email header. I'm not sure how to do that (using gmail/gsuite).
>
> Meant to reply to:
> https://public-inbox.org/git/20180321075041.GA24701@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/
>
>> Just before the context your patch quotes, we have this in gitignore(5)
>> already:
>>
>>     [...]It is not possible to re-include a file if a parent directory
>>     of that file is excluded. Git doesn’t list excluded directories for
>>     performance reasons, so any patterns on contained files have no
>>     effect, no matter where they are defined.[...]
>>
>> I can't see how your change to the documentation doesn't just re-state
>> what we already have documented, which is not to say the docs can't be
>> improved, but then we should clearly state this in one place, not
>> re-state it within the span of a few paragraphs.
>
> Context:
>
> This came up originally because of confusion with .gitattributes
> patterns, since gitattributes doesn't have the same `foo/` matching
> behavior. Jeff King was kind enough to prepare a patch for that
> documentation here:
> https://public-inbox.org/git/20180320041454.GA15213@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/
>
> Re-reading the section you quoted again a couple of times you're
> correct, but somehow that wasn't clear to me despite reading/searching
> for what I wanted to see several times.
>
> While what I wrote may need improvement, I think there are a couple of
> valid concerns with the way this behavior is documented currently:
>
>   - Generally: Reading about pattern matching for .gitignore is
> awkward on its face, since positive matches have negative consequences
> (in other words `include = !match`).
>   - Specifically: This behavior that is specific to `foo/` matches is
> documented in the section for `!foo` matches. If you're trying to find
> the implications of `foo/` you may not have read about `!foo` as
> carefully.
>
> Since this behavior is practically applicable to both pattern formats,
> and since patterns in the sum of a repo's .gitignore files can get
> somewhat complicated, I think it would be a good idea to either:
>
>   - Do this and basically explain the same behavior twice in two
> pattern format sections, or
>   - Pull the documentation for this behavior out into another section
> where users would be likely to find and understand it if they're
> looking into either pattern format
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks for the feedback,
>
> - Dakota




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