(I think that funnily enough, Linus is to a degree to the Git community something like Al Viro and Chris Hellwig are to the Linux kernel community. Don't get too derailed by his blunt^Whonest criticism, which is however usually quite valid. ;-) On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:23:20PM CEST, Jim Meyering wrote: > Marco Roeland <marco.roeland@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On monday May 28th 2007 at 20:19 Jim Meyering wrote: > >> Also, to be consistent, don't ignore EPIPE write failures. > > > > In practice I agree with someone else on this thread that EPIPE _is_ > > different. In a way the responsibility doesn't lie with the writer but > > with the reader. > > Do you think it's ok for git-rev-list _not_ to diagnose an erroneous > command like this (i.e., to exit(0)): > > git-rev-list HEAD | sync > > where "sync" could be any command that exits successfully > without reading any input? > > Is it ok that it is currently *impossible* to diagnose that > failure by looking at exit codes? Actually, yes! Because there's no "failure" per se. The command we piped the output into just decided that he isn't actually interested in any (for whatever reason; it might decide dynamically based on some parameters etc.). I can't think of why it could be considered a failure for git-rev-list if its customer doesn't happily eat all the output it generates. It's the customer's job to report any real trouble that happenned and might be cause of the premature end (or maybe the premature end was totally valid). Maybe it could expose some (IMHO contrived) error scenarios, but in most cases I think it will end up just spitting out bogus error messages. And what will people do? They won't bother to filter out this particular one (which isn't even that easy if the strerror() is localized, furthermore). They will just 2>/dev/null it. And cause the *real* error messages go to the land of void as well. There's enough of impossible-to-diagnose-error-conditions-because-stderr-goes-to-null scripts in the land of UNIX already and this patch, while actually well-meant to do the opposite, might well actually increase their number because of this. -- Petr "Pasky" Baudis Stuff: http://pasky.or.cz/ Ever try. Ever fail. No matter. // Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html