> On 08 Jan 2018, at 23:07, Junio C Hamano <gitster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > SZEDER Gábor <szeder.dev@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> The reason why Travis CI does it this way and why it's a better >> approach than ours lies in how unsuccessful build jobs are >> categorized. ... >> ... >> This makes it easier, both for humans looking at the Travis CI web >> interface and for automated tools querying the Travis CI API,... >> ... >> A verbose commit message for such a change... but I don't know why we >> started with building Git in the 'before_script' phase. > > Thanks for writing it up clearly. TBH, I didn't even realize that > there were meaningful distinctions between the two cases after > seeing that sometimes our tests were failing and sometimes erroring > ;-) I understand the reasons for the proposed patch. However, I did this intentionally back then. Here is my reason: If `make` is successful, then I am not interested in its output. Look at this run: https://travis-ci.org/szeder/git/jobs/324271623 You have to scroll down 1,406 lines to get to the test result output (this is usually the interesting part). If this is a valid argument for you, would it be an option to pipe the verbose `make` output to a file and only print it in case of error (we do something similar for the tests already). - Lars