On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Stefan Beller wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> checkout -f >>> I think I would expect this not to touch a submodule that >>> hasn't changed, since that would be consistent with its >>> behavior on files that haven't changed. > [...] >> I may have a different understanding of git commands than you do, >> but a plain "checkout -f" with no further arguments is the same as >> a hard reset IMHO, and could be used interchangeably? > > A kind person pointed out privately that you were talking about > "git checkout -f" with no further arguments, not "git checkout -f > <commit>". In that context, the competing meanings I mentioned in > https://crbug.com/git/5 don't exist: either a given entry in the > worktree matches the index or it doesn't. > > So plain "git checkout -f" is similar to plain "git reset --hard" > in that it means "make the worktree (and index, in the reset case) > look just like this". with "this" == the argument that was given, if the argument was omitted, HEAD is assumed. > checkout -f makes the worktree look like the index; No, here is what my installation of git (recent master) does: $ git --version git version 2.15.1.389.g52015aaf9d $ cat test.sh rm -rf tmp git init tmp cd tmp git commit --allow-empty -m initial echo commit >a echo commit >b echo commit >c git add . git commit -m commit echo index >a git add a echo worktree >a echo index >b git add b echo worktree>c $ sh test.sh Initialized empty Git repository in /u/tmp/.git/ [master (root-commit) c109fb5] initial [master fcc21ea] commit 3 files changed, 3 insertions(+) create mode 100644 a create mode 100644 b create mode 100644 c $ cd tmp $ git status On branch master Changes to be committed: (use "git reset HEAD <file>..." to unstage) modified: a modified: b Changes not staged for commit: (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed) (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working directory) modified: a modified: c $ git checkout -f $ git status On branch master nothing to commit, working tree clean # Let's test the other commands as well: $ cd .. $ sh test.sh ... $ cd tmp $ git checkout -f HEAD $ git status On branch master nothing to commit, working tree clean # See, there is no difference between giving HEAD as an argument # or not! Try again with reset just for completeness: $ cd .. $ sh test.sh ... $ cd tmp $ git reset --hard HEAD is now at b71ae70 commit $ git status On branch master nothing to commit, working tree clean # The only difference between reset and the checkout is that reset # tells me where we are. > reset --hard makes the worktree and index look like HEAD. I agree. > In that context, more aggressively making the submodule in the > worktree get into the defined state sounds to me like a good change. > > Hopefully my confusion helps illustrate what a commit message focusing > on the end user experience might want to mention. I'll try to come up with a better commit message. Thanks for bearing with me here. Stefan > > Thanks again, > Jonathan