On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Ilya Kantor <ilya.a.kantor@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > P.S. The old gmane discussion referenced by some previous posts on this subject is lost. You can find old gmane conversations at https://public-inbox.org/git/ by searching for "gmane:<id>" in the search field, where <id> is the gmane ID number of the message.