Am 24.10.2017 um 02:52 schrieb Junio C Hamano: > René Scharfe <l.s.r@xxxxxx> writes: > >> Am 21.10.2017 um 14:18 schrieb Junio C Hamano: >>> René Scharfe <l.s.r@xxxxxx> writes: >>> >>>> FWIW, I use "-?" for that everywhere. I have yet to find a command or >>>> environment where it does something dangerous. >>> >>> Yeah, it would have made the world a better place if we made that >>> choice back in 2008. If we start a transition to make it so right >>> now, we might be able to make the world a better place by 2022, >>> perhaps. I am not sure if the pain during the transition is worth >>> it, though. >> >> "-?" works fine with builtins already -- they complain that the option >> is unknown and then show the short help text. > > Ah, I misunderstood what you meant, then. I thought you were > advocating to move the built-in short-help support to know about and > explicitly react to "-?", and somehow forgot that it "works" more or > less already. I don't mean to advocate here -- it's more like trying to get the accounting right. A little bit of OCD perhaps? > The fact that "-?" already works for most things is good, but the > transition pain still remains, as what's costly is to transition > people's expectation (i.e. "'-?' and not '-h' is the way to get > short help from any subcommand"), not the implementation to fill the > gaps for those that do not yet support '-?', I am afraid. A minor cost for help-seeking users would be the extra error message at the top of the short help text. The main change would cause "git ls-remote -h" to show remote heads and "git show-ref -h" to show HEAD. Confused users would have to resort to e.g. man, -help, --help, their search engine of choice, or -?. I feel this could be justified. It would be different if e.g. reset started to take -h as shorthand for --hard, as this would cause data loss. The hard part would probably be allowing the execution of commands with unknown arguments outside of repositories to show the help text, even if they'd normally (with correct arguments) require one. Converting all commands from RUN_SETUP to RUN_SETUP_GENTLY seems painful. Showing help when a required repo is not found might be possible somehow. With that I'm going to shut up, as I don't even use the affected commands, nor can I imagine being in the place of someone impacted by "git <something> -h" not showing a help text. René
