On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 07:37:32PM -0400, Jeff King wrote: > > Correct. Actually more than "frown on": except for with the few calls > > like strtoul that are advertised to work this way, POSIX does not make > > the guarantee the above code would rely on, at all. > > > > So it's not just frowned upon: it's so unportable that the standard > > calls it out as something that won't work. > > Is it unportable? Certainly read() is free reset errno to zero on > success. But is it allowed to set it to another random value? > > I think we're getting pretty academic here, but I'm curious if you have > a good reference. Answering my own question. POSIX says: No function in this volume of IEEE Std 1003.1-2001 shall set errno to 0. The setting of errno after a successful call to a function is unspecified unless the description of that function specifies that errno shall not be modified. So that does seem to outlaw errno-only checks for most functions. It makes me wonder if the recent getdelim() fix is technically violating this. It should instead be explicitly checking for feof(). > IMHO as long as it _is_ deterministic and recognize as not an error from > read(), that's the best we can do. Which is why I went with "0" in the > first place. Seeing "read error: success" is a common-ish idiom (to me > anyway) for "read didn't fail, but some user-space logic did", if only > because it often happens accidentally. Another option I ran across from POSIX: [EOVERFLOW] The file is a regular file, nbyte is greater than 0, the starting position is before the end-of-file, and the starting position is greater than or equal to the offset maximum established in the open file description associated with fildes. That's not _exactly_ what's going on here, but it's pretty close. And is what you would get if you implemented read_exactly() in terms of something like pread(). -Peff