Re: [RFC] dropping support for ancient versions of curl

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brian m. carlson wrote:
On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 12:51:38PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Tom G. Christensen <tgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Whoah. So my assumption in <CACBZZX78oKU5HuBEqb9qLy7--wcwhC_mW6x7Q+tB4suxohSCsQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> that nobody was compiling this & thus not reporting failures was false. Rather there's an entire community & distribution mechanism around patching git for older EL versions, but the patches aren't making it upstream.

$ grep -h -e ^Subject -e ^Date *patch Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:34:11 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 1/7] Make NO_PERL_MAKEMAKER behave more like Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 11:02:02 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 2/7] Install man pages when NO_PERL_MAKEMAKER is used Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:42:50 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 3/7] Allow svnrdump_sim.py to be used with Python 2.2 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 09:31:56 +0100 Subject: [PATCH 4/7] Handle missing HTTP_CONNECTCODE in curl < 7.10.7 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:32:51 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 5/7] Add support for gnupg < 1.4 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:15:13 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 6/7] Handle missing CURLINFO_SSL_DATA_{IN,OUT} Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:26:54 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 7/7] Do not use curl_easy_strerror with curl < 7.12.0 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:24:44 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] Restore vc-git.el for basic compatibility on EL-5 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:03:36 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] git-cvsimport: Ignore cvsps-2.2b1 Branches: output

Patches can be found in the src.rpm, though I can also post them here as patch series, they cover more than just curl.

I don't use the el3 and el4 versions much any more and el5 use will also drop of now as I'm busy converting machines from el5 to el7.

It would be great to have them on-list, as far as I can tell they were never submitted? Is there some time/administrative reason for why you're not submitting them? Some of these are many years old, it would be great to have them on-list for wider review & included so vanilla git works on these platforms.

The vc-git.el patch which I think came from the Fedora/EPEL package for EL-5 was only intended to restore functionality to support the older emacs on EL-5. Now that EL-5 is EOL, it can (thankfully, IMO) die off.

The git-csvimport patch looks to be in the same category (assuming it was similar to what we included in the EPEL packages for EL-5 support). It was only needed (and applied) to support older systems and wasn't something worth carrying upstream.

I'm very opposed to accepting patches for operating systems that are no longer security supported. Having insecure systems directly or indirectly connected to the Internet is a very bad thing, and we shouldn't make it easier for people who want to do that.

I concur. I (or we, the Fedora/EPEL package maintainers for git) have tried to ensure that the packages for the latest Fedora release build cleanly for all supported Fedora and EL releases. I think that is useful for those who use CentOS/RHEL and still want to have a recent git build.

I don't see any benefit in making it easier for folks to run systems that are no longer receiving updates for critical security issues. It's surely hard enough to support EL-6 as it ages. ;)

CentOS 6 and 7 are still in use and security supported, and I think we should support them. CentOS 5 is EOL, although RHEL 5 is still supported in some cases. RHEL 4 and earlier are definitely out of support and we shouldn't support or consider them further.

I know RHEL 5 has some extended support from Red Hat, but EPEL-5 is dead. So from my perspective, supporting EL-5 isn't worth the effort.

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Todd
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