Re: [PATCH] http(s): automatically try NTLM authentication first

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On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 11:34:19PM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:

> Browsers usually disable this feature by default, as it basically will
> attempt to authenticate to any site that sends a 401.  For Kerberos
> against a malicious site, the user will either not have a valid ticket
> for that domain, or the user's Kerberos server will refuse to provide a
> ticket to pass to the server, so there's no security risk involved.
> 
> I'm unclear how SPNEGO works with NTLM, so I can't speak for the
> security of it.  From what I understand of NTLM and from RFC 4559, it
> consists of a shared secret.  I'm unsure what security measures are in
> place to not send that to an untrusted server.
> 
> As far as Kerberos, this is a desirable feature to have enabled, with
> little downside.  I just don't know about the security of the NTLM part,
> and I don't think we should take this patch unless we're sure we know
> the consequences of it.

Hmm. That would be a problem with my proposed patch 2 then, too, if only
because it turns the feature on by default in more places.

If it _is_ dangerous to turn on all the time, I'd think we should
consider warning people in the http.emptyauth documentation.

-Peff



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