Re: [PATCH v3 14/21] read-cache: touch shared index files when used

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On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 2:00 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Duy Nguyen <pclouds@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Duy Nguyen <pclouds@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 4:46 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Christian Couder <christian.couder@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So what should we do if freshen_file() returns 0 which means that the
>>>>>> freshening failed?
>>>>>
>>>>> You tell me ;-)  as you are the one who is proposing this feature.
>>>>
>>>> My answer is, we are not worse than freshening loose objects case
>>>> (especially since I took the idea from there).
>>>
>>> I do not think so, unfortunately.  Loose object files with stale
>>> timestamps are not removed as long as objects are still reachable.
>>
>> But there are plenty of unreachable loose objects, added in index,
>> then got replaced with new versions. cache-tree can create loose trees
>> too and it's been run more often, behind user's back, to take
>> advantage of the shortcut in unpack-trees.
>
> I am not sure if I follow.  Aren't objects reachable from the
> cache-tree in the index protected from gc?

I think the problem is loose objects created then gc run just before
they are referenced (e.g. index written down). But I think I may be
following a wrong road. If mtime is in fact to deal with race
conditions, applying the same idea here is wrong because we have a
different problem here.

> Not that I think freshening would actually fail in a repository
> where you can actually write into to update the index or its refs to
> make a difference (iow, even if we make it die() loudly when shared
> index cannot be "touched" because we are paranoid, no real life
> usage will trigger that die(), and if a repository does trigger the
> die(), I think you would really want to know about it).
-- 
Duy



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