On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Konstantin Khomoutov <kostix+git@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Still, I welcome you to read the sort-of "reference" post by Linus > Torvalds [1] in which he explains the reasoning behind this approach > implemented in Git. It's worth noting that that discussion was from some _very_ early days in git (one week into the whole thing), when none of those visualization tools were actually implemented. Even now, ten years after the fact, plain git doesn't actually do what I outlined. Yes, "git blame -Cw" works fairly well, and is in general better than the traditional per-file "annotate". And yes, "git log --follow" does another (small) part of the outlined thing, but is really not very powerful. Some tools on top of git do more, but I think in general this is an area that could easily be improved upon. For example, the whole iterative and interactive drilling down in history of a particular file is very inconvenient to do with "git blame" (you find a commit that change the area in some way that you don't find interesting, so then you have to restart git blame with the parent of that unintersting commit). You can do it in tig, but I suspect a more graphical tool might be better. .. and we still end up having a lot of things where we simply just work with pathnames. For example, when doing merges, it' absolutely _wonderful_ doing gitk --merge <filename> to see what happened to that filename that has a conflict during the merge. But it's all based on the whole-file changes, and sometimes you'd like to see just the commits that generate one particular conflict (in the kernel, things like the MAINTAINERS file can have quite a lot of changes, but they are all pretty idnependent, and what you want to see is just "changes to this area"). We do have the "-L" flag to git log, but it doesn't actually work for this particular case because of limitations. So what I'm trying to say is that the argument from 10+ years ago that "you can do better with intelligent tools after-the-fact" is very much true, but it's also true that we don't actually have all those intelligent tools, and this is an area that could still be improved upon. Some of them are actually available as add-ons in various graphical IDE's that use git. Linus