Re: Git issue

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On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Jeff King <peff@xxxxxxxx> writes:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 08:50:23PM -0000, Philip Oakley wrote:
>>
>>> > From "git help update-index":
>>> >
>>> >      --[no-]assume-unchanged
>>> >    When this flag is specified, the object names recorded for
>>> >    the paths are not updated. Instead, this option sets/unsets
>>> >    the "assume unchanged" bit for the paths. ...
>>
>> I think the "Instead" is "we are not doing the usual update-index thing
>> of reading the new data from disk; instead, we are _just_ setting the
>> bit". Perhaps that can be spelled out more clearly, but I think just
>> dropping "Instead" is a step backwards.
>
> I tend to agree; the biggest problem with this part of the
> description I think is that it starts by saying what it does not do,
> which may help people who expect the command to do its usual thing
> but otherwise is a secondary information.  How about ripping it out
> and moving it after the primary description, i.e.
>
>         Set or unset the "assume unchanged" bit for the paths,
>         without changing the object names recorded for them, in the
>         index.
>
>>> Given the number of misrepresentations (on the web) of what the bit does,
>>> and the ongoing misunderstandings of users it does feel like the man page
>>> article could be refreshed to be more assertive about the users promise, and
>>> Git's cautions.
>>
>> I dunno. I know this has long been a source of confusion, but I
>> specifically dug in the docs to see what we had, and I thought what I
>> quoted above was pretty clear. That has "only" been around for about 2
>> years, and is fighting against other mis-advice on the Internet, though.
>> So I'm not sure if it is badly worded, or if people simply do not see
>> it.
>
> I share the same reaction, and I find that the update in ccadb25f73
> ("doc: make clear --assume-unchanged's user contract", 2014-12-06)
> that introduced the "the user promises not to change and allows Git
> to assume" is sufficiently clear.
>

This is some what of a tangent, but....

One of the primary pieces of advice I've seen that encourages its use
was to set it for a submodule after a repository switched to using
submodules. The reasoning being that users were often running "git
commit -a" and accidentally including changes to their submodule
without realizing it because they were not used to keeping the
submodule up to date.

I saw advice for this and it mostly appeared to work, but I wonder if
there is a better solution. I failed to train people to simply stop
committing everything with "git add ." or "git commit -a" as this was
something they were too used to from using previous version control
systems.

Is there an alternative that would prevent "add everything" from
adding these files so that users wouldn't commit rewinds to
submodules?

Thanks,
Jake



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