On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > That said, now that I think about it, I should double-check: maybe > open() doesn't actually set atime at all, and we *could* do NOATIME > with SETFL after all. Checked. Yup. O_NOATIME could easily be done with SETFL:, because as with O_CLOEXEC, it only affects operations _after_ the open. The open itself doesn't set the access time. So I was full of it. But the basic issue still remains - I'd really prefer to have NOATIME stay around for all those poor misguided souls that for some reason don't like "relatime" or run old kernels. But whether it is with O_NOATIME at open time or with F_SETFL, I don't care. Linus