Re: [PATCH 0/4] External 'filter' attributes and drivers

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On Sun, 22 Apr 2007, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:

Junio C Hamano <junkio@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I know this is controversial, but here is a small four patch
series to let you insert arbitrary external filter in checkin
and checkout codepath.

This series is some pretty nice work.

But I really don't think we want filters.  Actually, I'm very
against them, and I'm actually very against the CRLF work that
has already been added.  Since the CRLF ship has sailed I won't
try to call it back to port.  But I don't want to see the filter
stuff raise anchor...

I've only really seen a few arguments for the filters:

1) Better compress structured content (e.g. ODF) by storing the
  ZIP as a tree, allowing normal deltification within packfiles
  to apply to the contained files.

2) Use a custom diff function on special files (e.g. ODF) as they
  are otherwise unreadable with the internal xdiff based engine.

3) Mutate content prior to extracting from the tree, e.g. printing.


Let me try to address these points.

#1: There are a limited number of content formats that we could
reasonably filter into the repository such that the standard
deltification routines will have good space/performance benefits.
Most of them today are ZIP archives (e.g. ODF, JAR).

I think that there are a lot more that could benifit from application specific knowledge. git today just deals with line-based formats. anything that has more structure to it could benifit from a diff/merge/delta/etc specific to it

Why don't we just teach the packfile format how to better compress
these types of streams?  Let read_sha1_file() and pack-objects do all
of the heavy translation work, just as they do today for text files.
Explode them into a "tree-like" thing that allows deltification
against any other content (even cross ZIP streams) just like we
do with trees, but always expose them to the working directory
level of the system as blobs.

This way we never get into the mess that David Lang pointed out
where we have many optimizations that reuse working tree files when
stat data matches; nor do we have to worry about major structural
differences between the working tree (1 file) and the repository
format (exploded ZIP as 10,000 files).


nobody is suggesting that the working tree format be one file and the repository format be 1000 files. but if you think that skipping borrowing from a working tree is expensive, consider how expsndive it is to uncompress and recompress files.


#2: We already support using any diff tool you want: set the
GIT_EXTERNAL_DIFF environment variable before running a program that
generates a diff.  As Junio pointed out on #git tonight, that could
be any shell script that decides how to produce the diff based on
its own logic.  Though we could also use the new attribute stuff
to select diff programs, much like we do now for merge conflict
resolution in merge-recursive.

but not diff tools per file, only per repository. not all files in a repository should be handled the same way.


#3: This has already been discussed at length on the list.
Letting the build system perform this sort of work is better than
making the VCS do it; especially when you want the VCS to do its
sole job well (track the state of the working directory) and the
build system do its sole job well (produce files suitable for use
outside of the repository).

sometimes there isn't a build system to shove this work off to.

I'll add a few more

managing permissions on files

managing system config files (where you want many systems to share what's logicly the same config, but each system needs it's own specifics)

David Lang

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