Just thinking out loud. I've been thinking about this more about this. After the move from signal-based to unix socket for communication, we probably are better off with a simpler design than the shm-alike one we have now. What if we send everything over a socket or a pipe? Sending 500MB over a unix socket takes 253ms, that's insignificant when operations on an index that size usually take seconds. If we send everything over socket/pipe, we can trust data integrity and don't have to verify, even the trailing SHA-1 in shm file. So, what I have in mind is this, at read index time, instead of open a socket, we run a separate program and communicate via pipes. We can exchange capabilities if needed, then the program sends the entire current index, the list of updated files back (and/or the list of dirs to invalidate). The design looks very much like a smudge/clean filter. For people who don't want extra daemon, they can write a short script that saves indexes somewhere in tmpfs, and talk to watchman or something else. I haven't written this script, but I don't think it takes long to write one. Windows folks have total freedom to implement a daemon, a service or whatever and use this program as front end. How the service talks to this program is totally up to them. For people who want to centralize everything, they can have just one daemon and have the script to talk to this daemon. I can see that getting rid of file-based stuff simplifies some patches. We can still provide a daemon to do more advanced stuff (or to make it work out of the box). But it's not a hard requirement and we probably don't need to include one right now. And I think it makes it easier to test as well because we can just go with some fake file monitor service instead of real watchman. -- Duy On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 9:57 AM, David Turner <novalis@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > This addresses comments on v13: > removed unnecessary no_mmap ifdef > add an ifdef in unix-socket > OS X fix for select() > test improvement > > Thanks to all for suggestions. > > David Turner (10): > pkt-line: add gentle version of packet_write > index-helper: log warnings > unpack-trees: preserve index extensions > watchman: add a config option to enable the extension > index-helper: kill mode > index-helper: don't run if already running > index-helper: autorun mode > index-helper: optionally automatically run > index-helper: indexhelper.exitAfter config > mailmap: use main email address for dturner > > Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy (11): > read-cache: allow to keep mmap'd memory after reading > unix-socket.c: add stub implementation when unix sockets are not > supported > index-helper: new daemon for caching index and related stuff > index-helper: add --strict > daemonize(): set a flag before exiting the main process > index-helper: add --detach > read-cache: add watchman 'WAMA' extension > watchman: support watchman to reduce index refresh cost > index-helper: use watchman to avoid refreshing index with lstat() > update-index: enable/disable watchman support > trace: measure where the time is spent in the index-heavy operations > > .gitignore | 2 + > .mailmap | 1 + > Documentation/config.txt | 12 + > Documentation/git-index-helper.txt | 86 +++++ > Documentation/git-update-index.txt | 6 + > Documentation/technical/index-format.txt | 22 ++ > Makefile | 22 ++ > builtin/gc.c | 2 +- > builtin/update-index.c | 15 + > cache.h | 25 +- > command-list.txt | 1 + > config.c | 5 + > configure.ac | 8 + > contrib/completion/git-completion.bash | 1 + > daemon.c | 2 +- > diff-lib.c | 4 + > dir.c | 25 +- > dir.h | 6 + > environment.c | 2 + > git-compat-util.h | 1 + > index-helper.c | 469 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > name-hash.c | 2 + > pkt-line.c | 18 ++ > pkt-line.h | 2 + > preload-index.c | 2 + > read-cache.c | 531 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- > refs/files-backend.c | 2 + > setup.c | 4 +- > t/t1701-watchman-extension.sh | 37 +++ > t/t7063-status-untracked-cache.sh | 22 ++ > t/t7900-index-helper.sh | 79 +++++ > t/test-lib-functions.sh | 4 + > test-dump-watchman.c | 16 + > unix-socket.h | 18 ++ > unpack-trees.c | 1 + > watchman-support.c | 135 ++++++++ > watchman-support.h | 7 + > 37 files changed, 1578 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-) > create mode 100644 Documentation/git-index-helper.txt > create mode 100644 index-helper.c > create mode 100755 t/t1701-watchman-extension.sh > create mode 100755 t/t7900-index-helper.sh > create mode 100644 test-dump-watchman.c > create mode 100644 watchman-support.c > create mode 100644 watchman-support.h > > -- > 1.9.1 > -- Duy -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html