Junio C Hamano venit, vidit, dixit 05.03.2015 23:24: > Christian Couder <christian.couder@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Jeff King <peff@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> I wanted to make one more announcement about this, since a few more >>> details have been posted at: >>> >>> http://git-merge.com/ >>> >>> since my last announcement. Specifically, I wanted to call attention to >>> the contributor's summit on the 8th. Basically, there will be a space >>> that can hold up to 50 people, it's open only to git (and JGit and >>> libgit2) devs, and there isn't a planned agenda. So I want to: >>> >>> 1. Encourage developers to come. You might meet some folks in person >>> ... >>> 2. Get people thinking about what they would like to talk about. In >>> ... >>> If you are a git dev and want to come, please RSVP to Chris Kelly >>> <amateurhuman@xxxxxxxxxx> who is organizing the event. If you would like >>> to come, but finances make it hard (either for travel, or for the >>> conference fee), please talk to me off-list, and we may be able to help. >> >> I'd like the Git project to set up a more organized way to pay back >> the travel costs and the conference fee to the developers who come. >> For example the Git project could say that it will at least pay back: >> >> - all the travel costs to the 5 most important Git developers who come and ask, >> - half the travel costs to the 5 next most important Git developers >> who come and ask, >> - all the conference fee to the 15 most important Git developers who >> come and ask, >> >> I think it could help developers decide to come, and it looks like >> enough funding could be available, thanks to GitHub and the GSoC >> money. What do you think? > > I personally perfer things to be kept informal---it would keep > things simpler for everybody. You do not have to wonder what you > should do when you think you are among the five most important > people and you also know your employer will pay for the conference > if you asked, for example. > > It feels to me that the suggestion Peff gave in his announce to ask > privately for case-by-case arrangement strikes the balance much > better. > >> Apart from that it's also possible to find ways to accommodate some >> developers for free, if they don't mind crashing in someone's spare >> room. >> >> So please don't hesitate to ask if you would like to come. > > These five lines, by not explicitly saying something like "the first > 2 people who ask can crash in Christian's spare bedroom", is doing > exactly the same thing as Peff did by saying "please talk to me > off-list", it seems to me at least. Both keep things informal and > simple, and both arrange things on case-by-case basis as needed. > > And I think that is better than setting a seemingly hard rules > upfront, and causing more problems unnecessarily (e.g. who decides > who are the 5 most important, for example?). Oh yes, that would be an interesting metric to define... OTOH I can see where Christian's question is coming from: Who is even supposed to ask for support? Not just as in "who is a developer", but also "what are finance hardships": At scientific conferences which I'm going to, there is often "support for those who need it", and that typically means participants from "less fortunate countries" (to avoid the usual world-counting term). Everyone else is expected to be covered by their academic employer - and if not, it's not even okay to ask the organisers. I guess that's what some of us are having in mind. That still leaves the question: Is there any space left in Christian's spare bedroom? :) Michael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html