On 06/13/2014 11:25 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Ronnie Sahlberg <sahlberg@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> It gets even more hairy : >> If the server has A/a and a/b and you clone it it becomes A/a and A/b >> locally. Then you push back to the server and you end up with three >> refs on the server: A/a A/b and a/b. > > That is part of the transition in deployment. David who wants to > forbid A/a and a/b mixed in his project will surely correct the > situation at the server end so "somebody fetches A/a and a/b and > ends up with A/a and A/b" will not happen. They will fetch A/a and > A/b. > > If a user is with an older Git and he has his own a/c, fetching A/a > and A/b from a corrected central repository will still give the user > a/a and a/b, but then pushing it back will be forbidden. The user's > repository needs to be fixed and installation of Git needs to be > updated to the version with an equivalent of David's "optionally > deny" feature implemented for the fetching side, so that the user > notices the local a/c is bad and not allowed within the context of > his project, deletes it and recreates it as A/c before he can fetch > A/a and A/b from the central repository. > > I agree that the transition may be painful, but as long as the > desired semantics is "If you have A/a, you are not allowed to have > a/a or a/b", it cannot be avoided---in that sense, I view it as a > lower priority issue. > > Having said that, it may indicate that the desired semantics above > may not be the optimal one. Perhaps the flag might want to be "on > this platform, we cannot do case sensitive refs, so pretend as if > all refs are lowercase" instead. I suspect that such a flag may > allow smoother transition than what has been proposed. > > Underlying refs "A/a" and "a/b" can stay as they are in David's > central repository, but ref enumeration with the flag enabled will > return a/a and a/b, and these are the names that will be fetched by > the users. If the user had an existing A/c, then fetching these > will still create A/a and A/b locally, but pushing them back will, > under that flag enabled, be turned into updates to a/a, a/b, and a/c > on the central server side with updated Git. The discussion here has made it pretty clear that, given our current loose reference and reflog storage schemes, it is not possible to implement case-sensitive references or even case-insensitive but case-preserving references correctly on a non-case-sensitive filesystem. We would always have spooky non-local conflicts like A/a vs. a/b. I think we *could* correctly implement * case-folded reference names (e.g., all lower-case; I wonder if that would also apply to HEAD etc.?) * case-folded reference names except for the last component, which could be case-insensitive but case-preserving: refs/heads/MyCrazyBranch. I suppose that many mixed-OS projects effectively use this policy nowadays and that is why we don't hear more complaints about this Git deficiency. If we had an option to use only packed references in a repository, I think we could also implement case-insensitive but case-preserving references on a non-case-preserving filesystem. The packed-refs file would be authoritative WRT case, and the case of the reflog directories and files would be ignored. But I would be nervous about promoting this style, because it will likely cause performance problems for repos that have a lot of refs. To support arbitrary refname policies on arbitrary filesystems, we of course need a different way of storing references and reflogs. Michael -- Michael Haggerty mhagger@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://softwareswirl.blogspot.com/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html