Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > Junio C Hamano wrote: >> * fc/remote-helpers-hg-bzr-graduation (2014-04-29) 11 commits >> - remote-hg: trivial cleanups >> - remote-hg: make sure we omit multiple heads >> - git-remote-hg: use internal clone's hgrc >> - t: remote-hg: split into setup test >> - remote-hg: properly detect missing contexts >> - remote-{hg,bzr}: store marks only on success >> - remote-hg: update to 'public' phase when pushing >> - remote-hg: fix parsing of custom committer >> (merged to 'next' on 2014-04-22 at fed170a) >> + remote-helpers: move tests out of contrib >> + remote-helpers: move out of contrib >> + remote-helpers: squelch python import exceptions >> >> As there were announcements for these two to be maintained as >> independent third-party projects ($gmane/248561, $gmane/248583), > > Clarification: after Junio unlilaterally blocked any further progress > towards grauduation to the core, which was the intention since the very > beginning. After seeing your repeated attempts to spread misinformation, I was planning to totally ignore you, but because "What's cooking" is one of the important project-wide report, I'll respond one last time. Even though I was originally leaning towards moving them into core (after all, why would I have merged the bottom three commits to 'next' otherwise?), I was later convinced, during the discussion that started with John Keeping's objection [*1*], that I was wrong, and if they moves outside contrib/, the best direction for them to go is not to the core but to become independent third-party plug-in for allow users to pick up the latest without being restricted by our release schedule to ensure no-regressions to the entire system. At some point I have to decide what would be the best next step, and your counter-arguments did not make much sense to me. The decision is that the best course for these two is either staying in contrib/ if they are not ready, or becoming independent third-party projects if they are. Is making that decision as the maintainer unilateral? I would not mind asking the others, as your discussion tactic seems to be "repeated voices start sounding like a chorus, and a chorus is project concensus". Those who are observing from the sideline, please raise your hand if you think the three-line "Clarification" Felipe gave us is a fair and accurate clarification. Anybody? I also do not mind seeing hands raised of those who do not agree, even though I already know that they would be a silent majority. Remember, I intend to make this message the "one last time" one. In the past, any time you made absurd claims by twisting facts and what other people said, I tried to contain the damage to innocent bystanders (who may not know Git and the history of the discussion well enough to make their own judgment) by double-checking facts and correcting you. These days, I still do the same fact-checking, which steals time from the project that would be better spent in other ways, but because I know your counter-arguments will be nitpicking on subissues that do not matter in the larger picture and resulting back-and-force will end up wasting a lot more time without anything to improve the project, I started to apply the "do not feed a troll". I'll stop wasting time even on fact-checking from now on whenever you say anything. It's not worth the project's time. [Reference] *1* http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/248641/focus=248643 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html