Junio C Hamano wrote: >> Decouple `simple` from `upstream` completely, and change it to mean >> `current` with a safety feature: a `push` and `pull` should not be >> asymmetrical in the special case of central workflows. > > Double negation confused my parser. 'push' and 'pull' should be > kept symmetrical in central workflows? They're not the same thing. It is very much intentional and intended: the safety net is not to "ensure that the push and pull are symmetrical" (i.e. among other things, error out if branch.$branch.merge is unset), but rather "ensure that the push and pull are never asymmetrical". >> Without any configuration the current branch is pushed out, which >> loosens the safety we implemented in the current 'safer upstream'. >> >> I am not convinced this is a good change. I am not convinced this is >> a bad change, either, yet, but this loosening smells bad. > > Provided that we would want to keep the "Push the current one to the > same name but you have to have it set up as your integration source" > safety for central workflow (which I am starting to think we > should), we would want something like this on top of your entire > series, I think. The behaviour change can be seen in the revert of > one test you made to the test that expects "simple" to fail due to > the safety. Now I'd like to question what you are labelling as "safety". What is the consequence of erroring out when branch.$branch.merge is unset when pushing using `upstream`? For me, it only means additional inconvenience: any new branches I create can't be pushed out without explicitly setting branch.$branch.merge to an "invalid" value. What is invalid about it? The fact that it doesn't exist, @{u} still doesn't resolve, and git branch -u doesn't work. Hell, even git push -u doesn't work! So, what is this huge "safety" that can justify inconveniencing me like this? By making sure that branch.$branch.merge is set, my prompt responds immediately to divergence, and this is awesome. Predictably, I use git push -u when I push out a new branch with `current`. So, unless you have a damn good reason to inconvenience me in the name of safety, branch.$branch.merge should default to refs/heads/$branch, unless set explicitly. I didn't want to contaminate this series with an unrelated improvement to `upstream`, which is why you don't see the change here: it is orthogonal to designing a good `simple`, and I only brought it up to question the "safety" you're carrying over to `simple`; what obligation does `simple` have to carry over this "feature"? I've made it clear that I want a clean break from `upstream`, and I find your proposal is very inelegant: `simple` has two modes of operation; when branch.$branch.remote is equal to $pushremote, branch.$branch.merge must be set and equal to $branch (the `upstream` mode); when branch.$branch.remote is unequal to $pushremote, don't care about whether branch.$branch.merge is set (the `current` mode). My proposal is much smoother than this "modal" operation, no? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html