Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> John Keeping <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> >>> This isn't about "swap parents", it's about helping people realise that >>> just "git pull" isn't necessarily the best thing for them to do, and >>> that they may want --rebase. >>> >>> So I was asking if it would be sensible (possibly in Git 2.0) to make >>> git-pull pass --ff-only to git-merge by default. >> >> Unless your primary user base is those who use Git as a deployment >> tool to always follow along the tip of some external repository >> without doing anything on your own on the branch you run your "git >> pull" on, defaulting it to --ff-only does not make much sense to me. > > A lot of people do stuff, but the rebase it. If I am parsing the above properly, I think that is only saying that "pull --rebase" makes sense for people who do real work, which I am not disagreeing. >> If the proposal were to make pull.rebase the default at a major >> version bump and force all integrators and other people who are >> happy with how "pull = fetch + merge" (not "fetch + rebase") works >> to say "pull.rebase = false" in their configuration, I think I can >> see why some people may think it makes sense, though. > > That makes perfect sense, because the people that are not familiar > with Git more often than not end up making merges by mistake, and the > ones that are familiar with it can easily configure it to do what they > want Yes, in theory. The transition needs a major version bump, but it is doable (with unknown level of resistance). >> But neither is an easy sell, I would imagine. It is not about >> passing me, but about not hurting users like kernel folks we >> accumulated over 7-8 years. > > I've worked in the Linux kernel, and in my experience the vast vast > majority of kernel developers don't do merges; they send patches. It's > only the lieutenants that might do that, and although there are a lot, > they don't surpass the 200, and they most definitely know how to > configure Git to do what they need. And even then, most of them don't > do merges, but create a linear history for Linus to merge. > > So the only one who does really rely on merges is Linus, I think he > would have no problems configuring Git. That is not something I can agree or disagree without looping somebody whose judgement I can trust from the kernel circle ;-). -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html