[completely off-topic; don't worry, we're just having a friendly chat] Felipe Contreras wrote: > If you are not prepared to defend your review, so are others, why to > you blame that on me? If you were right, you would be shown to be > right. Period. Felipe, there are some things that are worth arguing about for a long time (like the new revision spec I'm proposing in [1]), and others that are not. [1]: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/222248/focus=222526 > No, we operate in evidence and reason, *not* opinion. Any reasonable > person would say "well, I *think* this commit message needs more > description, but I don't *know*, I don't have *evidence* for it, so > I'm not going to fight to the death, as if I had". Don't you think you're taking reason to an extreme here? Reason is a tool that I use when I want. I don't want reason when I'm browsing Google Art Project or listening to Gentle Giant. Arguments like "is this commit message large enough?" are really not worth the time and effort. > Ultimately the decision to merge or not to merge comes to Junio, if > you don't like his decision, go complain to him, but I would be > prepared with points in time where people complained about these > patches, and there are no complains, so you have no ammunition at all > whatsoever. I have no desire to "attack" you, Felipe. I respect you as a more experienced developer than myself, and am trying to offer constructive criticism. I don't have an ego (or consider myself important to the community). Whatever will happen will happen, with or without me. > And this is how communities die. When everybody thinks the same, and > everyone who thinks differently is displaced. A monoculture, a place > full of yes-men where nobody criticizes anybody, a circlejerk where > everyone palms the back of everyone else. Eventually things go south, > and nobody around you understands why. > > Diversity in a community is healthy. If you don't like people who > think differently, *you* have a problem. If you don't like standing up > and defending your ideas, *you* have a problem. If you don't like > discussing on the basis of evidence and reason, *you* have a problem. Diversity is certainly healthy, and I it would be nice to have you in the community. We just have to find a way to keep the conflict down. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html