On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Since you disagreed with the rest, I'll only respond to this part: > > Felipe Contreras wrote: >> But I won't bother trying to convince you that no project is more >> important than its users (in the words of Linus Torvalds), because >> most people don't see the big picture. > > I didn't say otherwise. What I'm saying is: my personal incentive to > write code does not prioritize the supposed benefit of some unknown > "user" somewhere on the planet above everything else. My personal > incentive prioritizes me, and my immediate circle (ie. the git > community). The benefit propagates outwards to extended circles until > it reaches the people I care least about: incidental end-users. If the people that matter most are given the worst prioritization, it means the prioritization is wrong. > That's how people are connected: how can I care about distant unknown > people I'm not connected to? It's called empathy. > The people in the outermost circles > benefit the least, because they didn't get a say in the development. > All they can do is write a rant about it on their blog, and hope that > it gets fixed someday. To the detriment of the project. > You just ditched us, the inner circle of people who care about your > work the most, and are instead trying to convince us that we're > hurting some unknown hypothetical "users" by not merging your code > immediately. The users are real, the developers that will look retroatcively to the commit message of this patch are not. > If you think these users are more important to you than we are, then > why are you posting your code on this mailing list? What other way is there for this code to reach the users? > Start your own > project that's focused on satisfying these users. Start a new project so I can include a patch that hasn't made it yet into the "what's cooking" in one week? That's ridiculous. > It doesn't even > need to be open source or have a community of reviewers, because all > you care about are users. Who said *all* that matters are the users? And even if somebody did, ultimately a closed source proprietary software doesn't benefit the users, so either way it has to be open and active to benefit the users. -- Felipe Contreras -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html