Junio C Hamano venit, vidit, dixit 15.01.2013 16:53: > Michael J Gruber <git@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> Also there is a conceptual confusion: pushurl is meant to push to the >> same repo using a different url, e.g. something authenticated >> (https/ssh) for push and something faster/easier for fetch. > > That is not necessarily true, depending on the definition of your > "same". Having multiple URLs/PushURLs that refer to physically > different locations, as long as "git push there" immediately > followed by "git fetch here" should work with the repositories that > are conceptually equivalent, is a supported mode of operation. In That is my definition of "same", in the sense of "object-and-ref-same" when "in-sync" (at least regarding all pushed refs; there may be more there). > fact, they being physically different _was_ the original motivation > of the feature. See 755225d (git builtin "push", 2006-04-29). I thought it was about unauthenticated git-protocol vs. git+ssh but was wrong. > The definition of the "immediate" above also depends on your use; it > could be tens of minutes (you may be fetching from git.k.org that > can be reached from the general public, which may be a cname for > multiple machines mirroring a single master.k.org that k.org account > holders push to, and there may be propagation delays). In such a > scenario, your URL may point at the public git.k.org, pushURL may > point at master.k.org, and you may have other pushURLs that point at > other places you use as back-up locations (e.g. git.or.cz or > github.com). Yes. That is also why we fetch from one fetch URL only, because we assume they point at the "same" repo and don't need to check. > As long as you _mean_ to maintain their contents the same, you can > call them conceptually "the same repo" and your statement becomes > true. > >> It never was meant to push to several repos. > > This is false. It _was_ designed to be used that way from day one. It is very true with me definition of "same" ;) > (I am not saying using it in other ways is an abuse---I am merely > saying that pushing to multiple physically different repositories is > within its scope). > >> That being said, I don't mind changing the behaviour of set-url. > > I do not think we want to change the behaviour of set-url. What > needs to be fixed is the output from "remote -v". It should: > > * When there is no pushURL but there is a URL, then show it as > (fetch/push), and you are done; > > * When there is one or more pushURLs and a URL, then show the URL > as (fetch), and show pushURLs as (push), and you are done; > > * When there are more than one URLs, and there is no pushURL, then > show the first URL as (fetch/push), and the remainder in a > notation that says it is used only for push, but it shouldn't be > the same "(push)"; the user has to be able to distinguish it from > the pushURLs in a repository that also has URLs. Maybe "(fetch fallback/push)" if we do use it as a fallback? If we don't we probably should? > * When there are more than one URLs, and there are one or more > pushURLs, then show the first URL as (fetch), the other URLs > as (unused), and the pushURLs as (push). > > Strictly speaking, the last one could be a misconfiguration. If you > have: > > [remote "origin"] > url = one > url = two > pushurl = three > pushurl = four > > then your "git fetch" will go to one, and "git push" will go to > three and four, and two is never used. Do we fall back to two if one is unavailable? In any case, people may use a configuration like that to keep track of mirrors and shuffle around the fetch lines (rather than commenting/uncommenting) when one goes offline. > It should also be stressed that the third one a supported > configuration. With > > [remote "origin"] > url = one > url = two > > your "git fetch" goes to one, and your "git push" will go to one and > two. This is the originally intended use case of 755225d. It is to > push to and fetch from master.k.org (think of "one" above) and in > addition to push to backup.github.com ("two"). Michael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html