Re: Keeping unreachable objects in a separate pack instead of loose?

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On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 06:28:43PM -0400, Ted Ts'o wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 06:23:08PM -0400, Jeff King wrote:
> > 
> > I'm more specifically worried about large objects which are no better in
> > packs than they are in loose form (e.g., video files). This strategy is
> > a regression, since we are not saving space by putting them in a pack,
> > but we are keeping them around much longer. It also makes it harder to
> > just run "git prune" to get rid of large objects (since prune will never
> > kill off a pack), or to manually delete files from the object database.
> > You have to run "git gc --prune=now" instead, so it can make a new pack
> > and throw away the old bits (or run "git repack -ad").
> 
> If we're really worried about this, we could set a threshold and only
> pack small objects in the cruft packs.

I think I'd be more inclined to just ignore it. It is only prolonging
the lifetime of the files by a finite amount (and we are discussing
dropping that finite amount anyway). And as a bonus, this strategy could
potentially allow an optimization that would make large files better in
this case: if we notice that a pack has _only_ unreachable objects, we
can simply mark it as ".cruft" without actually repacking it. Coupled
with the recent-ish code to stream large blobs directly to packs, that
means a large blob which becomes unreachable would not ever be
rewritten.

> > No! That's exactly what I was worried about with the name. It is _not_
> > safe to do so. It's only safe after you have done a full repack to
> > rescue any non-cruft objects.
> 
> Well, yes.  I was thinking it would be safe thing to do after a "git
> gc" didn't result in enough space savings.  This would require that a
> git repack always rescue objects from cruft packs even if the -a/-A
> options are not specified, but since we're doing a full reachability
> scan, that should slow down git gc much, right?

Doing "git gc" will always repack everything, IIRC. It is "git gc
--auto" which will make small incremental packs. I think we do a full
reachability analysis so we can prune there, but that is something I
think we should stop doing. It is typically orders of magnitude slower
than the incremental repack.

-Peff
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