Re: Why Is There No Bug Tracker And Why Are Patches Sent Instead Of Pull Requests

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On 3/1/2012 11:10 AM, Junio C Hamano wrote:

Something based on the idea mentioned in Ævar's message (downstream in
this thread) to seamlessly integrate with the e-mail traffic might have a
chance to succeed.  I also think the integration must be two-way for it to
be useful.  A summary of "new issues untouched for N weeks" and another
"older issues unclosed for N weeks" periodically sent here, or something.

Perhaps collecting messages based on a handful of simple heuristics like
"A message mentioned the keyword 'bug', but no In-Reply-To for it from any
list regulars came in two weeks" might be a good place to start.

Why don't you just use git for your bug-tracking? With commit-messages, annotated-tags, signed-tags, branches, branch-descriptions, git-notes, submodules, sha-1's, send-email, patches, hooks, etc., not to mention all-kinds-of-files you can commit (screen-shots, bug-reports, etc.) it seems you have more than enough pieces to build a bug-tracker with git. For example:

Some Ideas:

(Setup)
- The bug tracker repo could be a one-way mirror of git.git. That way the bug-reports are literally tied to the source but don't clutter git.git.
  - Create a bug tracking branch parallel to each release branch.
- Create a bug-branch off-of the buggy-commit and do the fix and make the bug-tracking-admin updates around the bug branch.

(Submitting Bugs)
- Post-receive hook to assess new commits and send formatted email to mailing list, ie. new-bug push sends bug email to mailing list. - The mailing list creates "bug-report-commits" kind-of-like Junio mentioned above so the mailing list also feeding into it. - Bugs can be submitted directly to the bug repo and replicated to the mailing list via post-receive hook, and bugs can be submitted via the mailing list and automatically "forwarded" to the bug repo as "bug report" refs.
  - Screenshots could be a submodule for "large file" optimization.

(Issue-Numbers)
  - The sha-1 of the originating bug-report could be its issue-id.
- Tag the commit with a "bug tag". The sha-1 of the bug-tag could be the issue-id.
  - Calculate issue number from commit-counting to assign unique numbers.
  - The sha-1 of the buggy-commit could be the issue-id.

(Status Updates)
  - Use git-notes to update issue status.
  - Use annotated-tags to update issue status.
  - Use commit-messages to update issue status (or a file in the commit).

(Reporting)
- Interrogate bug-formatted refnames with wildcards to generate queries of whats going on.
  - Use gitk for ad hoc or pre-defined gui queries of what-you-want-to-see.
  - Use git time-machine commands to see how old stuff is or whats new.
- have a bug-report-id.txt file that people just modify and commit and use git-annotate to see the history of that bug-report.

(Signoff)
  - Signed tags for authenticity.

(Standardization)
- Git-commands or git-aliases or git-contrib-scripts to make sure people do-it-right (format names/messages/files correctly), ie. templates. - Commit hook snippet that detects bug branch format and brings up bug commit template.
  - Rebase hook snippet that doesn't allow bug branches to be rebased.

(Integration)
- The bug tracking system becomes part of the release workflow, ie., bugs are only considered fixed when they graduate to an official release or something close. - The "bug" tracking system also tracks "enhancements" and they are integrated into new releases using that workflow.

(Concurrency control)
  - Concurrent bug-report updates merge-conflict.
- If someone beat-you-to-it then you cherry-pick or rebase on top of them.

(Interfaces)
  - works from commandline
  - works with gitk, git-gui
  - works with gitweb

(Quality)
- Do you really need the greatest commercial-bug-tracker "x" or opensource-bug-tracker "y" to meet your needs? If you've done well with nothing then you probably don't need all the bells an whistles. Management-by-report is mainly for clueless managers who want to feel like they know whats going on, and to supervise people who don't-really-care. Since git people are on-the-ground and know whats going on, and are highly motivated individuals you probably don't really need all that fluff. I suspect you would already be using opensource-bug-tracker "y" if there was one you actually liked using. - There's probably someone on this list who thinks they can create a bug-tracker with git that's better-than-anything-else-out-there, and they're probably right.

(Intuitive)
  - If you know how to use git then you know how to use git bug-tracker.
- If you don't know how to use git then you probably shouldn't be submitting bug reports.

(Open Source Reusability)
- The git bug repo system can then be used by others internally as they apply that system to their own project's canonical repository to track their bugs internally.

Some-Stuff-You-Already-Know:

(Distributed)
  - clone, push, pull -- your using git.

(Reliability)
- you're using git so you know its uncorrupted, and if it does go down just clone from someone else and verify the checksum.

(Support)
  - git@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  - If git.git is down there is not much point in bug-tracking it.

I've been wanting to do this internally for a whle, but I'm still learning the git scm part. Some of the git technologies I listed above I haven't used yet so they may sound a bit off, but I think you can get the gist of it.

I think git people in general would be enthusiastic about this, and if so, that would be the one thing that truly distinguishes this proposal from the others ;-) You could call the repo or system bug-git, git-err-done, or something like that.

v/r,
neal
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