Re: Push from an SSH Terminal

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Jeff King <peff@xxxxxxxx> writes:

> On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 11:47:11PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
>> Jeff King <peff@xxxxxxxx> writes:
>>  ...
>> How well would it mesh with the goal of the ss/git-svn-prompt-sans-terminal
>> topic, which is now stalled [*1*]?  I do not mean this change and the other
>> topic textually conflict with each other---but the philosophies of this
>> topic and the other one seem to conflict.
>
> I don't see a conflict in the two series. That one seems to do two
> things for perl programs ...

That is the "[not] textually conflict" part of my message.

> If you look into the original complaint mentioned in the commit
> messages, though, you will see that the some GUIs will appear to hang
> when the terminal is prompted (because the prompt is reading from some
> location invisible to the user). So in that sense, my patches could be a
> regression for those users, as outright failing is better for them.

Yes, that is what I meant by "philosophies conflict".

> But I would argue that the bug is not prompting on the terminal, but
> rather that the terminal-prompting code does not recognize when there is
> no terminal connection to the user (and AFAICT, this is a Windows
> problem). Any solution that doesn't fix that is really just papering
> over the problem, and hurting people[1] on sane systems.
>
> So I'd rather see the version of getpass() in compat/mingw.c better
> learn to realize when we aren't actually connected to a console.

That is a sane diagnosis, I'd have to agree.

Thanks for a dose of sanity.

> [1] The amount of hurt is relatively small, though. It only hurts people
>     who set GIT_ASKPASS but can't use it (e.g., you set it in your
>     .bashrc because you connect via "ssh -X", but this time you happen
>     to be ssh-ing from a Windows box). And you can generally fix that
>     outside of git (e.g., by checking $DISPLAY before setting the
>     variable).
>
>     So one one hand, I don't want to make a decision on behavior for
>     Unix users because we have to cater to Windows shortcomings. On the
>     other hand, while fixing the root problem is preferable, if
>     for whatever reason we can't reliably find out whether the user is
>     actually going to see and respond to the prompt on Windows, it may
>     be practical to just paper over the issue. On the gripping hand,
>     after the Sven's series, TortoiseGit users would see the hang
>     (instead of a failure) _only_ if their askpass command failed. Which
>     is also perhaps not that big a deal.

Wow, you do have many hands ;-).

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