On 2006-11-05 08:44:13 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, Karl Hasselström wrote: > > > So the right thing to do would be to teach StGIT to generate > > 8bit-encoded output, and trust the SMTP transfer path do mangle it > > correctly? (Hmm. No, since StGIT talks directly with the first > > SMTP server in the chain, it needs to be able to QP-encode the > > mail itself if necessary -- but it should seldom be necessary, > > then.) > > Right. You could even just consider it an error if the mailserver > doesn't reply to EHLO with 8BITMIME, I really think it's that rare. Makes sense (unless the Python SMTP library can do this for us -- it would be impolite to refuse then). > > In that case, the problem with the current implementation (without > > my patch applied) is likely to be that it fails to provide the > > headers needed for the SMTP path to be able to transform it > > losslessly. > > I _think_ it should be sufficient to just set the Content-Type and > Content-Transfer-Encoding to say something like "text/plain; > charset=UTF8" and "8bit" respectively. But somebody who know the > SMTP rules better should check. These are the headers that StGIT uses without my patch -- that is, the headers used to get that error message: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Which is obviously not good enough for some picky part of the SMTP chain. > HOWEVER: > > > Received: (majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand > > id S1750700AbWJVMCV (ORCPT <rfc822;kha-list-git@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>); > > Sun, 22 Oct 2006 08:02:21 -0400 > > X-Warning: Original message contained 8-bit characters, however during > > the SMTP transport session the receiving system did not announce > > capability of receiving 8-bit SMTP (RFC 1651-1653), and as this > > message does not have MIME headers (RFC 2045-2049) to enable > > encoding change, we had very little choice. > > This does seem to say that somebody didn't even announce 8-bit > capability in the first place. That's a zmailer error message, and > it does imply that somebody was running a bad server. > > That said, _if_ your message had had the proper mime-type > specifiers, then zmailer would happily have QP-converted the message > for you, so everything would have been fine. E-mail seems to be like driving. You can't just follow the rules, you also have to be careful to make allowances for those who don't. :-( Well, it added these headers: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Maybe MIME-Version was the only thing missing? I'll have to try. > > The mail server (vger talking to itself, if the Received: headers > > were added in order) complained that there were no MIME headers, > > so it had to guess the charset. > > vger itself? Strange. It looks that way, but I don't know enough about mail servers to be very certain. The complete header of the message (in my git list mailbox) is this: >From git-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sun Oct 22 14:02:35 2006 Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Gbc2E-0005lw-00 for <kha-list-git@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 13:02:35 +0100 Received: (majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750700AbWJVMCV (ORCPT <rfc822;kha-list-git@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>); Sun, 22 Oct 2006 08:02:21 -0400 X-Warning: Original message contained 8-bit characters, however during the SMTP transport session the receiving system did not announce capability of receiving 8-bit SMTP (RFC 1651-1653), and as this message does not have MIME headers (RFC 2045-2049) to enable encoding change, we had very little choice. X-Warning: We ASSUME it is less harmful to add the MIME headers, and convert the text to Quoted-Printable, than not to do so, and to strip the message to 7-bits.. (RFC 1428 Appendix A) X-Warning: We don't know what character set the user used, thus we had to write these MIME-headers with our local system default value. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: (majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) by vger.kernel.org id S1751780AbWJVMCV (ORCPT <rfc822;git-outgoing>); Sun, 22 Oct 2006 08:02:21 -0400 Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com ([195.54.107.70]:50054 "EHLO mxfep01.bredband.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750700AbWJVMCU (ORCPT <rfc822;git@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>); Sun, 22 Oct 2006 08:02:20 -0400 Received: from ironport2.bredband.com ([195.54.107.84] [195.54.107.84]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20061022120218.PHVT953.mxfep01.bredband.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> for <git@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:02:18 +0200 Received: from ua-83-227-180-148.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO yoghurt.hemma.treskal.com) ([83.227.180.148]) by ironport2.bredband.com with ESMTP; 22 Oct 2006 14:02:18 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yoghurt.hemma.treskal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFDF4C010; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:02:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Karl =?utf-8?q?Hasselstr=C3=B6m?= <kha@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [PATCH] RFC2047-encode email headers Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:02:17 +0200 To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: git@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Message-Id: <20061022120217.7650.23715.stgit@localhost> User-Agent: StGIT/0.11 Sender: git-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx X-Envelope-Username: kha-list-git X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=0.94.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 X-Already-Filtered-By: kha@xxxxxxxxxxx, 2006-10-22 13:02:44 +0100 Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 4148 -- Karl Hasselström, kha@xxxxxxxxxxx www.treskal.com/kalle - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html