Someone trying to build Git may think the need autoconf when "make configure && ./configure && make" fails. But actually they can probably just run "make" directly. Change the "make configure" output so that when it fails the user is informed of this: make configure && ./configure && make GEN configure ERROR: We couldn't run autoconf for you. But you're in luck! ERROR: Git doesn't actually need autoconf to build. Just try ERROR: running "make" directly at the top-level. The Makefile ERROR: will guess your configuration based on your OS. If that ERROR: doesn't work try installing autoconf and running ERROR: "make configure && ./configure && make" again. make: *** [configure] Error 1 Signed-off-by: Ãvar ArnfjÃrà Bjarmason <avarab@xxxxxxxxx> --- On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:10, Michael J Gruber <git@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Ãvar ArnfjÃrà Bjarmason venit, vidit, dixit 11.10.2010 11:40: >> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 08:39, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> But thanks to having ./configure optional step, we can build git also >>> on platforms that doesn't have autoconf installed (though the same could >>> be achieved by bundling ./configure script with release tarballs). >> >> It already is built as part of the tarballs, at least for >> http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.3.1.tar.bz2 > > Well, the point of my semi-serious RFC is that every so often, we have a > variation on the following theme on the list: > > - "Newbee" uses make configure && ./configure && make and can't build. > - Helpful "oldbees" respond like "Duh! Use the Makefile". > > configure is a second class citizen in git.git (we even explicitly > .gitignore it - if you allow that lame joke), and given my complete lack > of auto-conf-foo, I can't change that. But there's no need to make > someone feel stupid (I'm exaggerating a bit) for trying a standard build > tool that we do ship. > > But, really, the typical responses to build problems with configure > indicate that most long timers don't use configure either, and probably > don't feel too comfortable with it. So, I think we should either make > the status quo clearer (Makefile as primary method) or change the status > quo. I can only do the former ;) The main problem with your patch is that existing invocations of "make configure" have to be altered. I haven't scoured the mailing list for these newbie reports you mention but aren't they mostly failing because users don't have autoconf installed, and not because the configure script itself fails? If that's case something like this patch would probably be better, and maybe we also need to change something in the INSTALL file or other documentation. Makefile | 11 ++++++++++- 1 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile index 1f1ce04..6d2928d 100644 --- a/Makefile +++ b/Makefile @@ -1747,7 +1747,16 @@ configure: configure.ac $(QUIET_GEN)$(RM) $@ $<+ && \ sed -e 's/@@GIT_VERSION@@/$(GIT_VERSION)/g' \ $< > $<+ && \ - autoconf -o $@ $<+ && \ + if ! autoconf -o $@ $<+; \ + then \ + echo "ERROR: We couldn't run autoconf for you. But you're in luck!"; \ + echo "ERROR: Git doesn't actually need autoconf to build. Just try"; \ + echo "ERROR: running \"make\" directly at the top-level. The Makefile"; \ + echo "ERROR: will guess your configuration based on your OS. If that"; \ + echo "ERROR: doesn't work try installing autoconf and running"; \ + echo "ERROR: \"make configure && ./configure && make\" again."; \ + false; \ + fi && \ $(RM) $<+ # These can record GIT_VERSION -- 1.7.3.1.50.g1e633 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html