On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Michael J Gruber writes: >> Oh, pleaaaze, no (on the subject line). No need for more fuel in this topic. > > I agree with Michael. Please don't do this- it's quite > distasteful. How having more than one admin is distasteful? > Johannes might have had a bad day and acted a little > inappropriately, Amir might have done something to trigger it, or it > might have been a combination of several other things. None of that > justifies all the time we're wasting on this issue. Exactly, and he might have another bad day again, and in order to avoid this issue in the future it's useful to have other people as admins. >> > I'd like to propose myself as sysop in order to make the wiki more >> > hospitable. >> [more detailed proposal cut out] >> >> Looking at the history of our wiki I don't see any need to overshoot as >> a result of this mostly singular incident. It should suffice to > Right. There was ONE distrubing incident on a Wiki. Let's not blow it > out of proportion and waste our time digging up dirt on one of our > own contributors. I don't think it's a single incident: Dscho blocked Amire80 (infinite, account creation blocked) (Spamming links to external sites) Dscho blocked Happypeter (infinite, account creation blocked) (adding random non-information on user pages) Dscho blocked Jheena789 (infinite, account creation blocked) (Spamming links to external sites) Dscho blocked AlmaBailey (infinite, account creation blocked, e-mail blocked) (Spamming links to external sites) Dscho blocked Vsimon213 (infinite, account creation blocked) (Spamming links to external sites) Dscho blocked Gaylechris (infinite, account creation blocked) (Spamming links to external sites) Dscho blocked Xuebao (infinite, account creation blocked) (Spamming links to external sites) Dscho blocked Gentleman Flying (infinite, account creation blocked) (Spamming links to external sites) Dscho blocked Flying Gentleman (infinite, account creation blocked) (Spamming links to external sites) Dscho blocked Smart (infinite, account creation blocked, e-mail blocked) (Spamming links to external sites) Dscho blocked Kimclarkkiss (infinite, account creation blocked) (Spamming links to external sites) Dscho blocked Chandller (infinite, account creation blocked) (Inserting nonsense/gibberish into pages) Dscho blocked David80 (infinite, account creation blocked) (Spamming links to external sites) How many of these people have been wrongly banned? It's impossible to know because only Johannes (the only admin), can see the deleted entries. > As part of the community, let us take the reponsibility for this > mistake and work towards becoming more friendly towards foreigners as > a community. Michel has already suggested some quick steps to take to > bury this discussion quickly- I'm in favor of doing it as soon as > possible and personally seeing my inbox fill up with patches > instead. Not at all to say that we should take the issue lightly, but > I never thought we'd discuss it at this length. > > Amir: We as a community are sorry that you've been treated > unfairly. Thanks for letting us know; we'll make sure that this > doesn't happen with others in future. How exactly? How do we as a community ensure that Johannes is not going to ban people unfairly? I haven't seen any acceptance of bad behavior, nor have I seen any hint as to what he will do the next time something like this happens. I say we need *at least* another admin, anyone. -- Felipe Contreras -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html