Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 18:00, Junio C Hamano <gitster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Run a git command and ensure it fails in a controlled way. Use >> this instead of "! <git-command>". When git-command dies due to a >> segfault, test_must_fail diagnoses it as an error; "! <git-command>" >> treats it as just another expected failure. letting such a bug go >> unnoticed. > > To add to that: > > Don't use test_must_fail to negate the return values of commands > on the system like grep, sed etc. If we can't trust that the core > utilities won't randomly segfault we might as well die horribly. I think you are being incoherent. If we can't trust system "grep" and it randomly segfaults, then a test: git some-command >actual && ! grep string-that-should-not-be-in-the-output actual would _pass_ when the command segfaults. I do agree with you that "We might as well die horribly", and the way you do so is by protecting the test with test_must_fail, like this: git some-command >actual && test_must_fail grep string-that-should-not-be-in-the-output actual Having said that, as we _do_ trust system tools to a certain degree, we do not care very deeply about this. IOW, I wouldn't want to see a patch that rewrites "! grep" to "test_must_fail grep". Thanks. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html