On 23/10/06, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
First, bzr is biased towards using revnos: bzr commands uses revnos
by default to provide revision (you have to use revid: prefix/operator
to use revision identifiers), bzr commands outputs revids only when
requested, examples of usage uses revision numbers.
As has been said before, you can set an alias to always show revision
IDs in "bzr log" output.
In order to use revnos as _global_ identifiers in distributed development,
you need central "branch", mainline, to provide those revnos. You have
either to have access to this "revno server" and refer to revisions by
"revno server" URL and revision number, or designate one branch as holding
revision numbers ("revno server") and preserve revnos on "revno server"
by using bzr "merge", while copying revnos when fetching by using bzr "pull"
for leaf branches. In short: for revnos to be global identifiers you need
star-topology.
Why do you continue to repeat this argument? No one is claiming that
a revision number by itself, as Bazaar uses them, is a global
identifier. In fact, we keep on saying that they only have meaning in
the context of a branch. If you want to use a revision number as part
of a globally unique identifier, it needs to be in combination with
its branch.
Even if you use revnos only locally, you need to know which revisions are
"yours", i.e. beside branch as DAG of history of given revision you need
"ordered series of revisions" (to quote Bazaar-NG wiki Glossary), or path
through this diagram from given revision to one of the roots (initial,
parentless revisions). Because bzr does that by preserving mentioned path
as first-parent path (treating first parent specially), i.e. storing local
information in a DAG (which is shared), to preserve revnos you need to
use "merge" instead of "pull", which means that you get empty-merge in
clearly fast-forward case. This means "local changes bias", which some
might take as not being fully distributed.
I won't dispute that Bazaar has features that make it easier to work
with the revisions in the line of development of the branch you're
working on in comparison to the revisions from merges. But given that
every Bazaar branch has this same bias towards their own main line of
development, how can that affect whether or not it is distributed?
James.
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