Hi, On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Charles Duffy wrote: > Johannes Schindelin wrote: you neatly clipped the most important part of my email: I quoted you saying that plugins can even change core behaviour! > > So, the wonderful upside of plugins you described here are actually the > > reason I will never, _never_ use bzr with plugins. > > > > I presume that for this reason you will also never, _never_ use a > non-mainline branch of git -- even if its actual code only touches UI > enhancements or something similarly non-core NO! The point was that I will not gladly run anything which could change the core. If I know it touches only the UI, there is no problem. If I get a shell script using git-core programs to do its job, I _know_ that my repository will not be fscked afterwards. And _that_ was the whole point of my email. > And that you will never, _never_ use third-party wrappers because they > might play LD_PRELOAD tricks. Or run any software with root privileges > you haven't personally written. Or... Most of it comes down to trust. And yes, you are correct, I will not run git with some obscure module LD_PRELOADed that some guy from some planet sent me. You might have missed my argument being about the SCM, and not the universe and all the rest. > The claim that an extensibility mechanism should be rejected wholesale > on account of being excessively powerful, on the other hand, is just > silly. Oh, but NO! An extensibility mechanism which allows for a fragile system _is_ silly. Not my rejection of it. Just take an example (illustrating that once again, one should not attribute everything to malevolence...): I write a plugin for bzr. It does really wonderful things, it even cooks you dinner. Only that I happened to make a small mistake (if you followed some threads on the git list, you'd know that small mistakes are a hobby of mine), and by this mistake, your repository is ... gone. Small mistake, big consequence. That is wrong with such a powerful system which caters for developers, which are human after all. Note that such a small mistake would be much more likely caught in git: if it touches the core, plenty of eyes look at it. Ciao, Dscho - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html