Matt, what exactly are you trying to achieve here? Is this a sort of contest who can have the longest thread on git@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx? If you really want to understand why git does not rely on timestamps, and why it should not, and why you can still be happy nevertheless, there are enough answers in this thread. Hth, Dscho - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html