On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > As you noted, port 465 has been used as a well-known de-facto port to run > SMTP over SSL at many places. I do not think it would help anybody by > clarifying that it is a "non-standard" port here. (off topic pedantry) 465 was at one time the de jure standard IANA registered port for smtps (not "ssmtp") alongside the imaps and pop3s ports. The IETF foolishly withdrew the registration for political reasons and it was subsequently re-assigned to something else. Since the withdrawal there has been no registered port for smtps, but smtps is required to support Outlook (not just Outlook Express). Therefore operators have ignored the IETF's mistake. This is another example of IP "as she is spoke" being different from what the standards say. Another good example is TCP congestion control which wasn't described in an RFC until RFC 2001. Also, MUAs typically use SSL to mean TLS-on-connect and TLS to mean STARTTLS, and the setting has no bearing on whether it uses version 3.0 and earlier or 3.1 and later of the protocol. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch <dot@xxxxxxxx> http://dotat.at/ GERMAN BIGHT HUMBER: SOUTHWEST 5 TO 7. MODERATE OR ROUGH. SQUALLY SHOWERS. MODERATE OR GOOD. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html