On 2009.06.05 10:55:08 -0400, Theodore Tso wrote: > On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 03:21:26PM +0200, Björn Steinbrink wrote: > > So the ctime got modified. I don't have any fancy indexing stuff > > running, and inotify doesn't see any events either while the ctime is > > changed. > > > > The only thing I changed lately was upgrading to 2.6.30-rc8 and going > > from ext3 to ext4. As the ctime change always seems to happen around 30 > > seconds after the real change, I kind of suspect ext4 to be guilty. > > Ted, is that possible? > > > > FS is mounted as: > > /dev/mapper/vg0-home on /home type ext4 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,barrier=0) > > > > I agree it sounds like it's ext4 related, but I'm not able to > reproduce it (using 2.6.30-rc8 with the patches planned for the 2.6.31 > merge window). This should show the problem, you were seeing, do you > agree? Yeah, that should do I guess. See my other mail for a simpler, less time consuming way to test. And as noted in there, it seems to happen only on ext3 filesystems mounted using ext4. > <tytso@closure> {/usr/projects/linux/misc} [master] > 547% git reset --hard HEAD^ > HEAD is now at b63254c Merge branch 'drm-fixes' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/airlied/drm-2.6 > <tytso@closure> {/usr/projects/linux/misc} [master] > 548% git pull > Updating b63254c..b87297f > Fast forward > drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_gem.c | 3 --- > 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) > <tytso@closure> {/usr/projects/linux/misc} [master] > 549% stat drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_gem.c;sleep 60 ; stat drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_gem.c > File: `drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_gem.c' > Size: 117594 Blocks: 232 IO Block: 4096 regular file > Device: fe00h/65024d Inode: 2643071 Links: 1 > Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: (15806/ tytso) Gid: (15806/ tytso) > Access: 2009-06-05 10:50:05.466966433 -0400 > Modify: 2009-06-05 10:50:05.466966433 -0400 > Change: 2009-06-05 10:50:05.466966433 -0400 > File: `drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_gem.c' > Size: 117594 Blocks: 232 IO Block: 4096 regular file > Device: fe00h/65024d Inode: 2643071 Links: 1 > Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: (15806/ tytso) Gid: (15806/ tytso) > Access: 2009-06-05 10:50:05.466966433 -0400 > Modify: 2009-06-05 10:50:05.466966433 -0400 > Change: 2009-06-05 10:50:05.466966433 -0400 > > Hmm, can you send me the output of dumpe2fs -h for your /home > filesystem? dumpe2fs 1.41.6 (30-May-2009) Filesystem volume name: <none> Last mounted on: <not available> Filesystem UUID: 4cc724c1-e366-41d7-8dee-baa6624bd04c Filesystem magic number: 0xEF53 Filesystem revision #: 1 (dynamic) Filesystem features: has_journal resize_inode dir_index filetype needs_recovery sparse_super large_file Filesystem flags: signed_directory_hash Default mount options: (none) Filesystem state: clean Errors behavior: Continue Filesystem OS type: Linux Inode count: 15548416 Block count: 31095808 Reserved block count: 0 Free blocks: 19016208 Free inodes: 15221178 First block: 0 Block size: 4096 Fragment size: 4096 Reserved GDT blocks: 1016 Blocks per group: 32768 Fragments per group: 32768 Inodes per group: 16384 Inode blocks per group: 512 Filesystem created: Tue May 15 19:50:48 2007 Last mount time: Thu Jun 4 21:31:36 2009 Last write time: Thu Jun 4 21:31:36 2009 Mount count: 17 Maximum mount count: 21 Last checked: Tue Mar 24 15:15:08 2009 Check interval: 15552000 (6 months) Next check after: Sun Sep 20 16:15:08 2009 Lifetime writes: 37 GB Reserved blocks uid: 0 (user root) Reserved blocks gid: 0 (group root) First inode: 11 Inode size: 128 Journal inode: 8 Default directory hash: tea Directory Hash Seed: 55e920c6-f31f-4761-b9d3-3ab558dc5746 Journal backup: inode blocks Journal size: 128M Thanks, Björn -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html