Replying to Adalbert now, On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 21:49:21 +0300 Shlomi Fish <shlomif@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Adalbert! > > Please reply to list next times, see: > > https://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/netiquette/email/reply-to-list.html > > You sent this message in private and it was misclassified as spam (which may > be my filters' fault). > > Regards, > > Shlomi > > Begin forwarded message: > > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 14:36:26 +0200 > From: Adalbert Hanßen <Adalbert.Hanssen@xxxxxx> > To: Shlomi Fish <shlomif@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Suggestd enhancement > > > Shlomi, > > thank you for your answer. I encountered the problem with GIMP 2.8.22 which I > preferred to use because GIMP 2.10 came as a snap installation and that did > not cooperate with my delayed xfce4-screenshooter starter > > xfce4-screenshooter -fmd 7 -o gimp > > (unfortunately I use version 1.8.2 of xfce4-screenshooter which does not allow > to set the output directory and the standard output directory /tmp is not > available in the snap-installed GiIMP 2.10.) > > Now I realized that I can use the snap installed version of GIMP in parallel > to the installed 2.8.22. Now put some text onto the clipboard and I realized > that your observation is right. I do not have klipper installed on my > computer. I got the message "die Zwischenablage enthält keine Bilddaten, die > eingefügt werden können" (no image data on the clipboard). > > However this might have been not the right test since the older version does > the same! You may be right, that > > xfce4-screenshooter -crm > > sometimes does not put an image onto the clipboard although I select a > rectangular part of the screen. I'll come back to that when I have an example > which does not work wit 2.8.22 but does with 1.10.20 (or does not work with > that one). > Thanks! You may be able to find an updated /usr/bin/gimp in a distro upgrade. > > The problem with greying out menu options is that often the user is unable > > to tell why they are greyed out, and what to do to reenable them. So it > > will be a usability issue. A note "no pastable image on the clipboard" on > > the status bar would tell the reason. < Furthermore, GIMP will need to > > query the clipboard before displaying the menu bar or menu which will > > likely also be time consuming on your end. > > Of course one would have to enquire the type of stuff on the clipboard. But I > think that will be much faster than what GIMP does. Apparently if you had an > image on the clipboard and then copy some text to it, then GIMP still pastes > the image. So the clipboard in Xubuntu seems to be a bit more complicated than > I thought before. I don't know for sure what GIMP really does if the content > of the clipboard is "no graphics object", like some text or some table or a > pointer to an file which is not an image... Those who are prepared to debug > GIMP might take a look what happens until GIMP finally throws in the towel > because there is no graphics on the clipboard. I guess that's much more work > until it finally throws and recovers from such an event and therefore my idea > was that it is better to check that earlier. But perhaps just that already has > happened between 2.8.22 and 2.10.20. > X.org has several clipboards - "primary", "secondary" - it's a bit of a mess: see e,g: https://metacpan.org/source/SHLOMIF/Clipboard-0.26/lib/Clipboard/Xclip.pm . > Kind regards > > Adalbert Hanßen > -- Shlomi Fish https://www.shlomifish.org/ https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/Summerschool-at-the-NSA/ Chuck Norris round house kicks doors open instead of using their keys. Summer Glau makes sure doors are open using her mind. — https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/facts/Summer-Glau/ Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - https://shlom.in/reply . _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
